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  • The Real Hitman
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    #41
    I'm not convince by a first round knockout. Paul Williams could of come in with loaded gloves and we would never know just because he won in the first round. So a guy beats you in a big fight and you can get lucky in the 2nd. Quintana was disturbed by Paul Williams team. He wasn't sure he would fight him untill the last month. They were playing games and that could've distract his training.

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    • mickey malone
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      #42
      Lets say the first fight was a learner and PW comes out a winner.. He was an impressive avenger.. In fact, Williams is a born winner in many respects as his popularity seems to be multiplying.. Good luck to him..

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        #43
        In my opinion Williams just had a bad night. It can happen to anyone.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #44
          Originally posted by Rompeboca
          lol
          well, I say Quintana really underestimated PW on the Rematch. A third fight is a most
          its not necessary, i"ve never heard of a KTFO getting a rubbermatch ever.

          Originally posted by The Real Hitman
          I'm not convince by a first round knockout.
          then nothing can convince you because a 1st round KTFO is as convincing as it gets in boxing.

          Paul Williams could of come in with loaded gloves and we would never know just because he won in the first round.
          proof?

          So a guy beats you in a big fight and you can get lucky in the 2nd. Quintana was disturbed by Paul Williams team. He wasn't sure he would fight him untill the last month. They were playing games and that could've distract his training.
          I think a rubbermatch can be made if quitnana unfies 154 or atleast grabs 2 belts

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          • Rompeboca
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            #45
            lol
            well, I say Quintana really underestimated PW on the Rematch. A third fight is a most


            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            its not necessary, i"ve never heard of a KTFO getting a rubbermatch ever.
            I'm not suprise that U do not know about boxing and speak out of your ass;

            George Foreman vs Joe Frazier
            Roy Jones vs Atonio Tarver
            Erik Morales vs Manny Pacquiao
            Israel Vazquez vs. Rafael Marquez
            Julio Cesar Chavez vs Oscar De La Hoya
            Jermain Taylor vs Kelly Pavlik
            Diego Corrales vs Jose Luis Castilo
            Fernando Vargas vs Shane Mosley
            Vernon Forrest vs Ricardo Mayorga
            Kermit Cintron vs Margarito

            And this is just the ones I could think of for right now!!!!

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              #46
              Originally posted by Rompeboca
              lol
              well, I say Quintana really underestimated PW on the Rematch. A third fight is a most




              I'm not suprise that U do not know about boxing and speak out of your ass;

              George Foreman vs Joe Frazier
              Roy Jones vs Atonio Tarver
              Erik Morales vs Manny Pacquiao
              Israel Vazquez vs. Rafael Marquez
              Julio Cesar Chavez vs Oscar De La Hoya
              Jermain Taylor vs Kelly Pavlik
              Diego Corrales vs Jose Luis Castilo
              Fernando Vargas vs Shane Mosley
              Vernon Forrest vs Ricardo Mayorga
              Kermit Cintron vs Margarito

              And this is just the ones I could think of for right now!!!!
              Damn Pwn...I don't even get into the pwning, but.... PWNED!

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              • BOOMbip
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                #47
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                quitnana got KTFO in one round... there's no need for a rubbermatch unless quitnana grabs a few belts
                So to you getting caught by a punch in the first round(can happen to anyone as the saying goes) is a more impressive way to victory then 12 rounds of a boxing lesson where a fighter wins just about every exchange of punches and busts up the fighters face without getting so much as staggerd by anything the other fighter throws at him???

                You look at the world through very different eyes as most people I know.

                See to me the long sustained beating over 12 rounds is a much more impressive way to win a fight...as opposed to just getting caught by a punch and being "ktfo" as you put it.

                I don't really understand while Pwil gets the benefit of having a bad night or over looking a guy...but Q gets caught with a lucky punch(I only call it lucky because they already went 12 rounds and Pwill couldn't hurt him with anything) and isn't deserving of the same benefit.

                I wonder why that is? HMMMMMM...somebody please help me with this conundrum.

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Rompeboca
                  lol
                  well, I say Quintana really underestimated PW on the Rematch. A third fight is a most




                  I'm not suprise that U do not know about boxing and speak out of your ass;

                  George Foreman vs Joe Frazier
                  before my time can't comment on this

                  Roy Jones vs Atonio Tarver
                  wasn't a 1st round KTfO
                  you and I know this fight should've never happened

                  Erik Morales vs Manny Pacquiao
                  wasn't a 1st round KTfO

                  Israel Vazquez vs. Rafael Marquez
                  the traded KOs, not a decision for a KO
                  wasn't a 1st round KTfO

                  Julio Cesar Chavez vs Oscar De La Hoya
                  that was a rermatch not a rubbermatch
                  wasn't a 1st round KTfO

                  Jermain Taylor vs Kelly Pavlik
                  that was a rermatch not a rubbermatch
                  wasn't a 1st round KTfO

                  Diego Corrales vs Jose Luis Castilo
                  the traded KOs, not a decision for a KO
                  wasn't a 1st round KTfO

                  Fernando Vargas vs Shane Mosley
                  that was a rermatch not a rubbermatch
                  wasn't a 1st round KTfO

                  Vernon Forrest vs Ricardo Mayorga
                  that was a rermatch not a rubbermatch
                  wasn't a 1st round KTfO

                  Kermit Cintron vs Margarito
                  that was a rermatch not a rubbermatch
                  wasn't a 1st round KTfO
                  And this is just the ones I could think of for right now!!!
                  epic fail for each one.

                  no one gets a rematch/rubbermatch for a 1st round KTFO

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BOOMbip
                    So to you getting caught by a punch in the first round(can happen to anyone as the saying goes) is a more impressive way to victory then 12 rounds of a boxing lesson where a fighter wins just about every exchange of punches and busts up the fighters face without getting so much as staggerd by anything the other fighter throws at him???
                    yes

                    You look at the world through very different eyes as most people I know.
                    of course, i'm not puerto rican.

                    See to me the long sustained beating over 12 rounds is a much more impressive way to win a fight...as opposed to just getting caught by a punch and being "ktfo" as you put it.
                    at quitnana's and pwill's level, getting KTFO in the 1st round should never happen, when it does happen then asking for a rubbermatch doesn't make sense

                    I don't really understand while Pwil gets the benefit of having a bad night or over looking a guy...but Q gets caught with a lucky punch(I only call it lucky because they already went 12 rounds and Pwill couldn't hurt him with anything) and isn't deserving of the same benefit.
                    neither had a bad night, quitnana won the 1st fight, cong**** to him, but getting KTFO in the 1st round of the rematch eliminates the possibility of a rubbermatch.

                    I wonder why that is? HMMMMMM...somebody please help me with this conundrum.
                    getting KTFO in the first round means the other guy doesn't have to fight you again.

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                    • BOOMbip
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      before my time can't comment on this


                      wasn't a 1st round KTfO
                      you and I know this fight should've never happened


                      wasn't a 1st round KTfO


                      the traded KOs, not a decision for a KO
                      wasn't a 1st round KTfO


                      that was a rermatch not a rubbermatch
                      wasn't a 1st round KTfO


                      that was a rermatch not a rubbermatch
                      wasn't a 1st round KTfO


                      the traded KOs, not a decision for a KO
                      wasn't a 1st round KTfO


                      that was a rermatch not a rubbermatch
                      wasn't a 1st round KTfO


                      that was a rermatch not a rubbermatch
                      wasn't a 1st round KTfO


                      that was a rermatch not a rubbermatch
                      wasn't a 1st round KTfO

                      epic fail for each one.

                      no one gets a rematch/rubbermatch for a 1st round KTFO
                      So your whole criteria to why Q doesn't deserve a rubbermatch is because he got caught with a punch in the first round? pretty weak.

                      The round where a fighter can come out cold...or not properly warmed up or could have been distracted or many other things?

                      Seems to me if Pwill would have wooped his ass for 3 rounds and then knocked him out and showed some kind of boxing supremacy I would look at it as a much more devastating win...and not just Q had an off night...or his head wasn't in the fight.

                      Lucky punches happen all the time....Embarrassing 12 round ass woopin/boxing lessons seldom ever happen.

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