Victor Ortiz Snubbed By Kotelnik’s Acceptance of Khan

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  • pistol whip
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    #21
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    dunno but ortiz isn't as scrappy as we thought. in otherwords what's gonna happen to him when he faces real adversity in the ring?

    LOL!!!! At 16 Khan was one year away from winning a silver medal and had the luxury of a top level olyimpic program. Victor Ortiz was a homless kid working out in some no name gym with no name trainers. Sorry man but i think Ortiz conquered adversity a long time ago just by getting to this level and khan is the one who has to learn to deal with it as he was groomed to be a winner all his life..

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    • MR.PLANAS
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      #22
      Originally posted by Zarco
      He didnt ko him, he tko'd him. He got wobbled, still on his feet, when the ref stopped it.
      Is this video available?

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      • 2501
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        #23
        Originally posted by Malcolm.
        Kotelnik is fighting the guy that KO'd Ortiz. Give the man some credit
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        also khan tKOed ortiz in the ams
        good call guys. Remember everyone, Victor Castillo beat Floyd in the amateurs and we all know how great he's doing now.

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        • lopez36
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          #24
          more money for kotelnik and not a great risk in khan,,plus if he beats khan,his stock rises,,kind of smart anyways,would have been ko'd

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          • warp1432
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            #25
            Originally posted by 2501
            good call guys. Remember everyone, Victor Castillo beat Floyd in the amateurs and we all know how great he's doing now.
            Martin Castillo wasn't it? Not Victor.

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            • unsteadydominic
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              #26
              No vvonder UK Fighters never reach the fame level of US Fighters

              Freakin UK Fighters and their well chosen opponents that equal unbeaten records until they get exposed. Thats why they suck. They are worse than Chavez Jr.'s team in choosing their pillow hitting fighters. But here we go again with ducking a great KO artist fighter. What can anybody say it is Vicious Ortiz. Nough Said.....

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              • warp1432
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                #27
                Originally posted by raycorey
                Exactly..Blame Golden boy not Kotelnik..
                Except blame no one. Warren had more money, so he won. It's fair.

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                • Steak
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                  #28
                  Khan vs Kotelnik is also a real good fight, so Im not complaining. Im surprised Khan is already moving up in weight.

                  but what the hell, Victor needs a fight now. Lets have him fight Torres! or actually, remember that Maidana guy that dropped a very close decision to Kotelnik? that would be a real exciting fight too.
                  worse comes to worst, Ortiz could fight a Devon Alexander or Salita to get his name up in the rankings.

                  and if Ortiz vs Khan are going to be fighting in the same weight class...theyre going to clash eventually, if they keep doing well.

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                  • mrosborne
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                    #29
                    Unfortunate truth....

                    This sucks for Victor Ortiz, but unfortunately such is life. The bigger money offer comes along with a smaller threat(no disrespect to Amir Khan, a talented and speedy guy but ungifted fighter when it comes to power) and the generous money offer is too big to discount the other guy, ie Ortiz. Kotelnik is a solid, all around fighter, nothing flashy but solid and upright European fighting style. I'd favor Ortiz in the Kotelnik match due to his unrelenting offense and power, but in the case of Khan- Kotelnik now I'll say Kotelnik wins it. Why? Experience and fundamental base beats speed anyday without the great equalizer, power, which Khan has yet to provide as contrary evidence to the case. Kotelnik UD.

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                    • dannymac
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by pistol whip
                      Sorry man but i think Ortiz conquered adversity a long time ago just by getting to this level and khan is the one who has to learn to deal with it as he was groomed to be a winner all his life..
                      Life grooms you to be a winner, it can't be done falsely.

                      LOL I dont think khan was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

                      You ever been to Bolton?

                      I'm not a fan BTW, Barrera should get his rematch IMO. That cut should have stopped the fight straight away......not just into the 5th round.

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