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  • Xyei
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    #51
    Originally posted by SkilledBoxer
    im smelling a calzaghe fan is the thread starter.

    went from MW to HW and smashed everybody, then when he tried to go back down killed himself

    Show me 1 fighter more talented then RJJ

    that had the natural talent.


    Hopkins
    Tarver
    Griffen
    Ruiz
    Toney
    Hill

    He's the best fighter of his generation hands down, if you can't see that you need to leave
    I don't understand why a Calzaghe fan would bash Roy. It basically discredits Calzaghe for even fighting him.

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    • The Gunner
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      #52
      Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
      Not that it's not fact, but you're wording it to discredit him. You can't prove that he moved up from MW to avoid Gman. You can guess that but you can't prove that, that is the reason why. I actually agree that Roy is overrated a bit but it's silly to completely discredit him and call him a fraud. Like I said before, you could take any fighter's record and talk **** about it and make it look bad.
      Its fact that he never fought ANY of these guys.


      Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1
      What is a farud?
      Read the first post.....

      Originally posted by SkilledBoxer
      im smelling a calzaghe fan is the thread starter.

      went from MW to HW and smashed everybody, then when he tried to go back down killed himself

      Show me 1 fighter more talented then RJJ

      that had the natural talent.


      Hopkins
      Tarver
      Griffen
      Ruiz
      Toney
      Hill

      He's the best fighter of his generation hands down, if you can't see that you need to leave
      I stopped reading at the bit that states he smashed everyone.

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      • Roger Mellie
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        #53
        What is a Farud?

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        • The Gunner
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          #54
          Originally posted by mr.crust
          What is a Farud?

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          • Spirit
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            #55
            Originally posted by The Gunner
            Yup !!!!

            Take your own advise on this one or i'll just keep destroying your posts.
            Please, Hopkins was nowhere near that level then. He got the **** out instead of fighting G-Man too.

            And Roy was? Roy didnt even get a title shot until he cut ties with his dad who made sure he didnt fight anyone to dangerous. If this guy is a fraud why would he try to secure a tite shot for himself.

            Where do you get your facts from? Benn and Eubank both wanted him, Eubank stated less than a month ago that Roy wouldn't fight him. He wouldn't fight Steve Collins either.....All these guys must be liars though.

            This was posted about 6 months ago but I suppose you wouldnt know that seeing as you havent even been around that long. Try using the search function, you'll probably find it very useful . Oh and while youre at it, you might discover threads like these are being posted every month or so, with the starter being ridiculed

            Ducked the top fighter in the division for 5 years....I guess just like Eubank, Benn and Collins this guy is lying to though....

            Just for the record I never mentioned Collins, frankly I dont even know why RJJ never fought DM. IMO that was still a winnable fight for him. I think its pathetic still bringing this up, people didnt seem to rant on Jones as much as they do now even though DM has lost to lesser opposition and Jones disposed of the same opponents more convincingly than DM did.

            Fought a bum, lets not get away from the fact that Ruiz is garbage.....Lewis called him out and he ran back to 175. Lewis must be a liar like Eubank, Benn, Collins and DM though.

            Youre saying the same thing over and over again . Lets compare shall we because as far as I can tell the last time Hearns fought a linear champ was about 17 years before he retired . If the matter of facing a linear champ weighs so heavy in you eyes how come you seem to respect Hearns despite him not doing so? TBH I never saw an even prime Jones beating Lennox Lewis, Jones was simply too small. I still respect Jones for winning a HW title though.

            Youre a big funny hypocryt, if you think youll be destroying my posts with arguments like that then Id recommend not padding yourself on the back as much

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            • VirusTI
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              #56
              Thread starter is a fool and a Calz fan.
              I think you are upset the Roy will always be regarded as better than Calz.

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              • Darkstar
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                #57
                Originally posted by dde91
                Great Opinion. Roy Jones fought C fighters and some D fighters his whole career. When he faced Hopkins, Hopkins was a C+ fighter.

                Then when he beat these guys he was expected to kill *all those BUMS* he ran his mouth like he was hot ****, but THE REAL fans, not the nutthuggers, Know the truth. Were not blind.
                Originally posted by The Gunner
                Seriously, Roy has to be the most ridiculously overrated fighter in history! Lets take a look at what he's done.

                When people thought of him as great on his run from MW to HW he never even beat a linear champion (top champ in the division) and he never once defended against his top rated contender. Roy is the ultimate paper champion, he is a fraud of the highest order.

                At MW: Won a vacant strap against Bernard Hopkins. Made a couple of defences against nobodys then moved up when G-Man was a clear #1 contender to him.

                At SMW: Fought a dead at the weight James Toney (Liles was the linear champ at the time) and won. Fought cops and postmen instead of fighting Eubank, Benn and Liles.

                At LHW: Won a vacant title against Griffin (at the second time of asking) then went on to duck DM for a whole 5 years.

                At HW: Fought Ruiz who wasn't even top 3 for a Don King manufactured strap, Got called out by Lewis then ran away back to 175.

                The first time Roy fought a #1 contender was Antonio Tarver after moving down from HW and the only reason he took that fight was because Lewis called him out.

                This guy is a fraud, he's the biggest fraud in boxing history who avoided all the top rated dangermen and took vacant titles and fought for the lesser straps.

                Edit: Yeah, i notice the typo in the thread title
                I agree. Due to a number of factors, Roy Jones is very overrated.

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                • The Gunner
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by beerneer
                  Please, Hopkins was nowhere near that level then. He got the **** out instead of fighting G-Man too.

                  And Roy was? Roy didnt even get a title shot until he cut ties with his dad who made sure he didnt fight anyone to dangerous. If this guy is a fraud why would he try to secure a tite shot for himself.

                  Did i say that Roy was?

                  Where do you get your facts from? Benn and Eubank both wanted him, Eubank stated less than a month ago that Roy wouldn't fight him. He wouldn't fight Steve Collins either.....All these guys must be liars though.

                  From the horses mouths, are you saying they are all liars?

                  This was posted about 6 months ago but I suppose you wouldnt know that seeing as you havent even been around that long. Try using the search function, you'll probably find it very useful . Oh and while youre at it, you might discover threads like these are being posted every month or so, with the starter being ridiculed

                  New here? New account, yeah.

                  Ducked the top fighter in the division for 5 years....I guess just like Eubank, Benn and Collins this guy is lying to though....

                  Just for the record I never mentioned Collins, frankly I dont even know why RJJ never fought DM. IMO that was still a winnable fight for him. I think its pathetic still bringing this up, people didnt seem to rant on Jones as much as they do now even though DM has lost to lesser opposition and Jones disposed of the same opponents more convincingly than DM did.

                  Of course Roy defenders will find it pathetic.

                  Fought a bum, lets not get away from the fact that Ruiz is garbage.....Lewis called him out and he ran back to 175. Lewis must be a liar like Eubank, Benn, Collins and DM though.

                  Youre saying the same thing over and over again . Lets compare shall we because as far as I can tell the last time Hearns fought a linear champ was about 17 years before he retired . If the matter of facing a linear champ weighs so heavy in you eyes how come you seem to respect Hearns despite him not doing so? TBH I never saw an even prime Jones beating Lennox Lewis, Jones was simply too small. I still respect Jones for winning a HW title though.

                  Hearns gets respect because he tried to unify with Leonard, it should not be in question that Hearns went out of his way to fight the best....unlike Roy.

                  Youre a big funny hypocryt, if you think youll be destroying my posts with arguments like that then Id recommend not padding yourself on the back as much
                  You're posts are easily destroyed you're not refuting anything just putting your own spin on stuff. Refute what i'm saying....Roys a fraud, he never fought the linear champions or defended against the #1 contenders....Refute it, explain why he never done this....

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                  • The Gunner
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by VirusTI
                    Thread starter is a fool and a Calz fan.
                    I think you are upset the Roy will always be regarded as better than Calz.
                    Great post.

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                    • mikeyh1015
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Gunner
                      Seriously, Roy has to be the most ridiculously overrated fighter in history! Lets take a look at what he's done.

                      When people thought of him as great on his run from MW to HW he never even beat a linear champion (top champ in the division) and he never once defended against his top rated contender. Roy is the ultimate paper champion, he is a fraud of the highest order.

                      At MW: Won a vacant strap against Bernard Hopkins. Made a couple of defences against nobodys then moved up when G-Man was a clear #1 contender to him.

                      At SMW: Fought a dead at the weight James Toney (Liles was the linear champ at the time) and won. Fought cops and postmen instead of fighting Eubank, Benn and Liles.

                      At LHW: Won a vacant title against Griffin (at the second time of asking) then went on to duck DM for a whole 5 years.

                      At HW: Fought Ruiz who wasn't even top 3 for a Don King manufactured strap, Got called out by Lewis then ran away back to 175.

                      The first time Roy fought a #1 contender was Antonio Tarver after moving down from HW and the only reason he took that fight was because Lewis called him out.

                      This guy is a fraud, he's the biggest fraud in boxing history who avoided all the top rated dangermen and took vacant titles and fought for the lesser straps.

                      Edit: Yeah, i notice the typo in the thread title
                      Are you serious? I'll just say this. We all know he is the most skilled fighter of all time right. Now take this who the **** could have beat roy in his prime? what ****in fighter exisisted in roys prime that could beat him? wtf is your problem? WHo? He got hit 7-9 times in his whole carrer. I mean hopkins could beat roy lol... who? Who? mikelchiskekekoiuagsfsr whatever his name is lol.... i remember in 02 when calzaghe said "roy looks awsome he is the best. His speed his power his skill, He is scary. I wouldn't want to fight him" or something like that. So who ******.

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