Hatton Learned From De La Hoya's Mistake With Pacquiao

[Maestro USA]

Marquez always brings out the worst in Pacquiao and vice-versa, they're that evenly matched. That's why they're 1 and 2 on the P4P list. It's like Superman against a Kryptonite, for both ways. or whichever side you are on. JMM's power on both hands are so underrated because Pacquiao never went down. The Baby Bull and El Cepillo now knows better, they've never been stopped or KOed throughout their boxing career, until they met Dinamita...

Shot fighters or paper-belt bums always bring out the best in Pacquiao.

[southcalihds]

Ricky bakla fatton gonna get knocked the fawk out..

[Chups]

I hope Hatton rips Manny a new a$$hole......

Juan Manuel Marquez can't wait!

[K U Y I P]

Hatton has more one punch power at 140. Pacquiao has more skills, but he has never tested them against someone with Hatton's style. Hatton has an exceptional ability to cut off the ring very quickly, using fast and effective footwork, which is a skill. He also has an exceptional ability to create angles for his body shots, which only Mayweather Jnr has so far been able to completely negate, and that's also a skill. He has a very good jab when he uses it - he neglected his jab for several fights prior to teaming up with Floyd Snr., but is now majoring on jabbing his way in. And his head movement has also improved under Floyd Snr. Pac has more skills, but you are under-estimating Hatton's skills.

hatton has more flaws than skill imo.manny pacquiao will definitely exploit this flaws of hatton to his advantage. it is already inherent to hatton that due to his mauling style, he often forgot to jab when he comes forward and this will be a very big mistake if he does this against pacquiao.i don't think snr. can infuse in him to jab when coming forward.

[QUISQUEYA]

If you can see anything objectively wrong with my analysis, post an analysis of your own showing why you think it's wrong - or would that take more brain cells than you possess?

BTW, for the record I have Pac winning this fight.

Dave, sorry I wounded you so much with the retort.

Yes, there is at least one part i disagree with:

"Hatton has an exceptional ability to cut off the ring very quickly, using fast and effective footwork"

Hatton is -at best - average at cutting the ring off. Hatton has a tendency to fly straight at you at 100 mph. Seldom laterally. That is what often knocks fighters off balance. See the first rounds of BOTH the Collazo and Mayweather fights. He landed a weak punch on Collazo, and the Mayweather punch didn't even land. It's not a coincidence that those fighters are thrown off balance early, and then adjust within a couple of rounds. Go watch the Tszyu fight, and see how he was coming vertically at Tszu and bulling dude into the ropes.

And once a skilled boxer adjusts to that, there really is no more "ring cutting off". It becomes follow/hit/hug/hold/brawl. If you look at many Hatton fights, he does less well later in the fight (recent examples? the aforementioned FMJ and LC fights, but also the Urango bout).

All that being said, Hatton is gonna beat Pac. And Pac is one of my favourite fighters.

[koboy]

It doesn't matter what size Hatton comes in, he will always be a one dimensional fighter. He only knows how to fight one way and that is to bullrush people, feint sometimes and now occassionally throw a jab, courtesy of FMSr. He can't adapt and has no plan B.

Mayweather knew this and exploited it. FMJr was throwing that check hook from Round 1 until he adjusted the timing and distance a bit and it finally connected in Round 10. Mayweather adapted well to Hatton's style and actually fought a bit like Hatton, which threw Ricky off. Hatton couldn't adjust to this at all. He was doing the same thing the whole fight. No plan B. Watch all his fights and he does the same things.

Paulie was just scared ****less of being mauled and threw his gameplan away. The times he carried them out, he was hitting Hatton as he lunged in. Manny will probably do the same. The difference between Paulie and Manny is that Manny is not scared to scrap once in awhile.

Manny will probably catch him with a counter uppercut after a nice sidestep.

This is just my humble opinion.

[QUISQUEYA]

Mayweather knew this and exploited it. FMJr was throwing that check hook from Round 1 until he adjusted the timing and distance a bit and it finally connected in Round 10. Mayweather adapted well to Hatton's style and actually fought a bit like Hatton, which threw Ricky off. .

Which is the absolute truth.

My concern is picking Hatton over Pac is that Ricky fought Mayweather like the dumbest fighter alive. In the 8th round, Ricky got nailed - and almost KO'd - by a check hook in the corner. While flying in. Two rounds later, what happens? Sheesh, Ricky.

I mean, you saw Tim Bradley get nailed by a counter left hook from Holt. For the rest of the fight, Holt couldn't land that punch. That is what a smart fighter does. Adjusts.

[koboy]

I mean, you saw Tim Bradley get nailed by a counter left hook from Holt. For the rest of the fight, Holt couldn't land that punch. That is what a smart fighter does. Adjusts.

True.

The Hatton camp is always asking what would Manny do once he gets hit by Ricky's "murderous" body punches. The real question is, what would Hatton do once he gets tagged by Manny from all angles. The answer, nothing. He'll just get hit over and over again, until he gets hurt.

Meanwhile, Manny will adjust to Ricky in a flash. You saw what JMM did to Manny, who was reacting badly to a cut, on the 8th Round of their last fight. That was one of the worst round a fighter could ever have. You could have scored that a 10/8 round for JMM. What does Manny do the rest of the fight - adapt. He actually won rounds 9 and 10, almost knocking down JMM with a newly adapted punch, a lunging/ducking left bolo punch, and never got hurt again after.

Manny's adaptability is highly underrated. He is today, one of the most highly adaptable fighters alive. Look at his career and the different fighters, fighters' styles and different weight classes he has adjusted to. One thing is constant, he always comes out on top. Granted the JMM fights were disputable, but Manny on the 1st is a different fighter than the Manny on the 2nd fight, while JMM has always fought the same way. Manny changes or adds on to his reportoire each and everytime he fights. That is why Manny always prevails.

I won't be surprised if he shows us something new against Ricky, but I'm sure Hatton will be.

[Dave Rado]

Dave, sorry I wounded you so much with the retort.

I wasn't wounded, I just thought that post was pathetic. You've now shown you can analyse boxing intelligently, so why didn't you do that in the first place?

Yes, there is at least one part i disagree with:

"Hatton has an exceptional ability to cut off the ring very quickly, using fast and effective footwork"

Hatton is -at best - average at cutting the ring off. Hatton has a tendency to fly straight at you at 100 mph. Seldom laterally.

That's something Floyd Snr has been working on - but he has sometimes come in laterally, and even when he doesn't, he surprises opponents with his speed and often cuts them off because of that. I agree he'll need to use more lateral movement against Pac than he did against Mayweather Jnr, though. A lot depends on how much he can absorb from Floyd Snr, IMO.

All that being said, Hatton is gonna beat Pac.

We'll see ...

[Dave Rado]

Which is the absolute truth.

My concern is picking Hatton over Pac is that Ricky fought Mayweather like the dumbest fighter alive. In the 8th round, Ricky got nailed - and almost KO'd - by a check hook in the corner. While flying in. Two rounds later, what happens? Sheesh, Ricky.

I mean, you saw Tim Bradley get nailed by a counter left hook from Holt. For the rest of the fight, Holt couldn't land that punch. That is what a smart fighter does. Adjusts.

I would expect Floyd Snr to be able to give him a plan B mid-fight, though. Graham wasn't close to being in the same class as a cornerman.