Rewatching Hatton-Tszyu

[flipbjefrox]

in-fighting is a skill, that's what you're missing. Dancing around and running might look pretty but it's no more valid a skill than good in-fighting.

you mean in fouling.. no that's not a skill. there's a reason cortez broke them up cuz it's against the rules

[flipbjefrox]

little pac gets his face rearranged by that old past his prime kosta tszyu

naw but iam positive a dehydraded ODLH would have KO ricky. **** he almost got KO'd by lazcano. paulie fight was a mirage. the guy couldnt punch

[NakiFan]

You say Paulie was a mirage but still the guy went 12 with cotto, beat n'dou twice, beat ngodju, so he cant be that bad.

[DLT]

IM definatly not going to feel sorry for Tsyzu like alot of you are. I remember watching the fight when it happened and even though I didnt have a dog in the fight, I was cheering for Hatton because he was man handling Tszyu the same way Kostya did others. Tszyu did that stuff alot in his fights too. He was always dirty in the clinches and tried to use his muscle to bully guys. He even did it in the last Mitchell fight. Hatton just did the same to him and Tszyu couldnt handle it.

I didnt finish rewatching the fight so I dont quite remember how bad the clinching was but there are 2 types of clinching. There are no punch throwing, wrestling type clinches like Hatton was doing with Floyd and then there are just physical fast paced clinches like Hatton did with Tszyu. I never mind those type of clinches. I dont think it stopped the fight or that neither guy could punch. I like that type of stuff, like how Hopkins punked Keith Holmes. The difference with the Floyd fight is that Hatton did it out of fear of space which made him clinch to the point where he couldnt even land a punch. Even his corner told him the whole time that he was smothering his own punches and Manny Steward was saying it during the fight. He didnt smother his punches against Tszyu. He just punked him and I can respect that

[MaD RoBoT]

Chico vs Castillo I is good example of in-fighting, hattons holds/clinch more than the usual

[J.B.moneY.]

naw but iam positive a dehydraded ODLH would have KO ricky. **** he almost got KO'd by lazcano. paulie fight was a mirage. the guy couldnt punch

haha wow dude u live in a lala world....all manny pac does is fight washed up old geezers....last meanignful win was against mab the first time, and the human punching bag david diaz....past 4 or 5 years his fought washed up bums.....and hatton ko's oscar in 5-7 with body shots...hahaha

oh and i forgot the 2 loses to jmm

[flipbjefrox]

haha wow dude u live in a lala world....all manny pac does is fight washed up old geezers....last meanignful win was against mab the first time, and the human punching bag david diaz....past 4 or 5 years his fought washed up bums.....and hatton ko's oscar in 5-7 with body shots...hahaha

oh and i forgot the 2 loses to jmm

well at least he has 1. hatton has 0... past his prime kosta and shot shot shot castillo are the only notable fights he has. he got schooled by collazo and realize his skills are only good for 1 division and convinced himself that he cannot fight with the big boys

[Benny Leonard]

IM definatly not going to feel sorry for Tsyzu like alot of you are. I remember watching the fight when it happened and even though I didnt have a dog in the fight, I was cheering for Hatton because he was man handling Tszyu the same way Kostya did others. Tszyu did that stuff alot in his fights too. He was always dirty in the clinches and tried to use his muscle to bully guys. He even did it in the last Mitchell fight. Hatton just did the same to him and Tszyu couldnt handle it.
I didnt finish rewatching the fight so I dont quite remember how bad the clinching was but there are 2 types of clinching. There are no punch throwing, wrestling type clinches like Hatton was doing with Floyd and then there are just physical fast paced clinches like Hatton did with Tszyu. I never mind those type of clinches. I dont think it stopped the fight or that neither guy could punch. I like that type of stuff, like how Hopkins punked Keith Holmes. The difference with the Floyd fight is that Hatton did it out of fear of space which made him clinch to the point where he couldnt even land a punch. Even his corner told him the whole time that he was smothering his own punches and Manny Steward was saying it during the fight. He didnt smother his punches against Tszyu. He just punked him and I can respect that

True, Tszyu wasn't a Saint either but I do think that version of Tszyu that showed up against Hatton was "flat" like Kostya said he felt. Leading up to the fight rumors were circulating that he was having a tough time taking off the weight while in England. Tszyu I think down-played it.
Even on the scales, he failed the first time and just looked ill. True, many fighters don't look to healthy when on the scales but I never saw him look that bad and his wife said the same thing.

At his age, his inactivity, and having the fight in England at the time it was held, I don't think it helped his energy. Hatton also had to make weight and fight early in the morning, but Tszyu's was a far tougher test given his age, inactivity, family life that had him in bed by sundown, etc.

Because of all that, I think Hatton felt that since he just out-muscled the reputed strongest in the division, it led him to believe he was Superman which fed right into the hands of Mayweather Jr.

Tszyu got tired by the mid rounds and Hatton started his pound game. I was actually surprised Tszyu held in as long as he did and still won rounds.


If Hatton would have looked at all of the reasons for his win like he was doing before the fight on why he would win, which he mentioned Tszyu's inactivity and age, etc. maybe he would have had a different game-plan against Mayweather Jr. and not went in thinking he could out-muscle him.

[J.B.moneY.]

well at least he has 1. hatton has 0... past his prime kosta and shot shot shot castillo are the only notable fights he has. he got schooled by collazo and realize his skills are only good for 1 division and convinced himself that he cannot fight with the big boys

haha you call that featherweight division pac fought at the big boys?....collazo eats pacs heart for breakfast if manny got into the ring with him

[flipbjefrox]

haha you call that featherweight division pac fought at the big boys?....collazo eats pacs heart for breakfast if manny got into the ring with him

5 divisional champ which means his skills transcend 1 division unlike hatton who's so 1 dimensional and unskilled. if he fought the kosta fight in the US, that old past his prime kosta would have still beaten hatton