Was Wladimir Klitschko drugged during Lamon Brewster I?

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  • Benny Leonard
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    #111
    First of all, Burstein noted that the sports-book odds tumbled from 11-1 to 7-2 in the days before the fight. He claims that it "is virtually unheard of for them to change so dramatically in such a short period of time."

    Well, it's NOT unheard of, for openers. What it more probably means is that there was very little action on the fight up until the weekend, and that when there was, most of the money that came in was on Brewster.

    This seems entirely reasonable. Think about it: Given his history, would YOU have bet $110 on Klitschko to win $10?

    Burstein also made much of the case of the vanishing credential. Supposedly somebody scammed his way into the fight by picking up a credential reserved for an unnamed member of the Klitschko posse. Despite promoters' elaborate precautions, we can assure you that this is not unheard of, either. Since whoever was in possession of the FAUX credential was never spotted, we can probably assume that either somebody miscounted on the initial allotment, or the interloper, if indeed there was one, just found a seat and watched the fight. There is no evidence that any unauthorized person ever got near the Klitschko corner, but Burstein's letter to the US Attorney leaps, incredibly, in a single paragraph, from this allegation to Robert Mittleman to Arnold Rothstein and the 1919 Black Sox.

    Even more preposterously, Burstein attempts to use as "evidence" a comment made by an employee of the Palms sports book to the Las Vegas Sun's Deane Juipe that the Vitali Klitschko-Corrie Sanders fight two weeks later had been taken off the board "because the other Klitschko [Wladimir] looked like he was poisoned or something in the fight with Brewster." (Emphasis supplied by Burstein.)

    Of course, when this decidedly unscientific view was elicited (on April 19), the Klitschkos had been howling to anyone who would listen about Wladimir having been "poisoned" for eight days already.

    Could it be, rather, that the ******** industry came to the same wary conclusion much of the boxing world did? To wit: If you've seen one Klitschko, you've seen them all.

    The notion that Wladimir was defeated by foul play and not by his own inadequacies would neatly fit into the agenda of at least one major player on the boxing scene. A few days before the Brewster-Wladimir Klitschko fight an HBO insider said to boxing author and attorney Thomas Hauser "how can we go wrong with four Klitschko title fights a year?"

    And in its report on the OTHER Klitschko's Los Angeles fight two weeks later, Sports Illustrated's Richard Hoffer somewhat preposterously claimed that "Vitali is the sole bona fide heavyweight champion."

    Would we risk stooping to a Judd Burstein-level low here to point out the authors of those two statements draw their paychecks from the same company?

    And on the basis of exactly WHAT does Vitali rate as "the sole and bona fide heavyweight champion? Beating an out of shape, 38 year-old Corrie Sanders? In point of fact, Vitali had more trouble with Sanders than Hasim Rahman and Nate Tubbs did in Corrie's two previous defeats. Would Sanders have been the "sole and bona fide champion" if HE'd won? Or would Judd be demanding another investigation?

    Even if one accepts the proposition that Lewis was the legitimate heir to the mantle of John L. Sullivan, Joe Lewis, and Muhammad Ali, as far as we can see the retired champion and SI's "sole and bona fide" one have at this point just one thing in common. Their lawyer.


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    • Poet682006
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      #112
      Originally posted by Norton
      So, following your "logic" I must dislike Klitschkos only because we are from Eastern Europe and to pleasure you? You know, growth of interest to specific sport in ANY country mostly depends of their sportsmens succes in this "specific sport". I take it your are weak also in sociology and social psychology.
      It may be sociological phenomena but civilized human beings are supposed to be above such base tribalism. That's what separates us from the animals who run in packs and barbarians who hang in clans and other basic tribal units.

      Originally posted by Norton
      But don't change the subject - your post insults all people from former USSR, not only "nuthaggers", "fan-bois" or other of your "paper enemies".
      But don't change the subject! My posts have been clearly directed to the nuthugging Eastern Euro boxing fans who spout their racial supremacist views and tout the Klitschkos as the ATGs, best ever in the most nausiatingly worst posts: Again, for no other reason than the Klitschkos have the right ethnicity. That's just ******. If I had a bias against ALL citizens of the former Soviet Union than you would have a very hard time explaining my favorite chess player. Want to take a guess who that might be? It happens to be Anatoly Karpov who is about as Russian as you get. Again, my all-time favorite chess player. Want to take a stab at a few other favorite chess players of mine? How about Boris Spassky - Russian. Vasily Smyslov - Russian. Mikhail Tal - Lithuanian. Paul Keres - Estonian. Tigrin Petrosian - Armenian. David Bronstein - Russian. Samual Reshevsky - originally Polish. And just to be REALLY international here's some more favorites: Jose Raul Capablanca - Cuba. Wilhelm Steinitz - Austrian. Adolf Anderson - German. Miguel Najdorf - Argentinian. Any questions?

      Be a men and admit that your were wrong.

      Poet

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      • Roger Mellie
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        #113
        Originally posted by poet682006
        Five years don't make it go away. Plus how can you say "no ****** comments" when Klitschko fans are incapable of making anything else?

        Poet
        Good company part 2.I have just been grey k'd by Norton just because I red k'd him for looking a bit pale! All I need now is for klit2009 and leo pradun to put me on ignore to really make my day.

        With this many alts,tunney must be drowning himself in a proper sausage fest....with himself!

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          #114
          Originally posted by Benny Leonard
          A few years ago George Foreman recalled his reaction to his loss to Muhammad Ali in their 1974 "Rumble in the Jungle" as one of the most shameful episodes of his boxing career. "By saying I'd been tricked or that my food might have been poisoned I detracted from Ali's victory," said Foreman. "The man beat me that night and I should have just given him credit for a great performance. Instead I was so embarrassed I started looking around for excuses."
          Foreman's a really stand up guy. That's something you don't see much these days.

          Poet

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            #115
            Originally posted by mr.crust
            Good company part 2.I have just been grey k'd by Norton just because I red k'd him for looking a bit pale! All I need now is for klit2009 and leo pradun to put me on ignore to really make my day.

            With this many alts,tunney must be drowning himself in a proper sausage fest....with himself!
            So he tried you to huh?

            Poet

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            • Norton
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              #116
              Originally posted by poet682006
              Here is the allegedly "racist" post:



              Now, is there any mention of race in there? Did I at anytime indicate the Slavs (or anyone else!) were somehow genetically inferior? No. However Norton's buddies make those insinuations all the time about non-Slavs in general and non-whites in particular.

              Poet
              Do not hide behind the curtain of words. Be responsible for what you are saying. And who are those "buddies" of mine that you mentioned? There are few posters that I know enough and respect in this forum and they certainly are no panslavists and insulting nobody. Your words I'm afraid are as empty as yor head and your heart.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Norton
                Do not hide behind the curtain of words. Be responsible for what you are saying. And who are those "buddies" of mine that you mentioned? There are few posters that I know enough and respect in this forum and they certainly are no panslavists and insulting nobody. Your words I'm afraid are as empty as yor head and your heart.
                Try actually READING the words and you might be enlightend. As for the pan-Slavist posters I would direct you to the posts of Wlad_Ownz (and his many alts), Tunney, Werewolf, ect. ect. You'll find all the pan-Slavism you'll need to read for this and many other lifetimes.

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                • Roger Mellie
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by poet682006
                  So he tried you to huh?

                  Poet
                  Here is what he wrote to go with his mighty greyness.-I owe you nothing. But I'm not "alt" whatever you mean by this. But I would not tolerate racist posts and insults from this ignorant scrub - "poet".

                  Classic tunney!

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                  • Piggu
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                    #119
                    Where's the, "No, he just got fucked up" option?

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                    • Poet682006
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by mr.crust
                      Here is what he wrote to go with his mighty greyness.-I owe you nothing. But I'm not "alt" whatever you mean by this. But I would not tolerate racist posts and insults from this ignorant scrub - "poet".

                      Classic tunney!
                      That's why I reposted the so-called "racist" post. To show people just what he was going ape**** over. Did you see anything racist in there?

                      Poet

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