Edwin Valero Returns on July 25, Latin Fury 9

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  • -Hyperion-
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    #71
    Originally posted by mrlopez
    TRU DAT! I wanna see him in there with a live opponent, whether it be an up and coming contender, former or current champ.....Then we can see what he's really made of imo......remember he got put on his ass by Maussa, although he came back and won, it still leaves a lot of questions imo.
    valero never fought maussa.....and again a top 5 lightweight isnt a live opponent?

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    • mrlopez
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      #72
      Originally posted by -Hyperion-
      valero never fought maussa.....and again a top 5 lightweight isnt a live opponent?
      My bad Mosquera.......

      Top 5 as in Pitalua? Was he a worthy opponent because of his ranking in the WBC? Yes, but i mean a top 5 ranked in the whole lightweight division....maybe i'm just being too picky, but i just want to see him fight a real fighter/contender, former or current champ because i want to be sold on him as well. Anyone who brings GREAT attention to boxing is a person i want to see fight.....
      Last edited by mrlopez; 04-08-2009, 01:45 PM.

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      • Dave Rado
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        #73
        Originally posted by -Hyperion-
        a top 5 lightweight isnt a live opponent?
        The Ring had him at #7, but he was massively over-rated. I'm not saying that because he was beaten, I was saying it before the fight. Pitalua's only decent win in recent years was against Santa Cruz; and Santa Cruz was also greatly over-rated - his only decent performance was against Casamayor in one of the worst, most lethargic performances of Casamayor's entire career. Had there been a rematch, almost everyone would have expected Casamayor to win easily.

        The rest of Pitalua's opponents make Valero's opponents look like Hall of Famers in comparison. One of Pitalua's recent opponents had a record of 0-0-0. How pathetic is that? Other recent opponents of his had records of 7-4-2 , 0-3-0, 0-4-0, 0-1-0, 12-10-0, and 27-10-2. How does that earn him a shot at a belt or a #7 rating? It's ridiculous.

        Now Valero is rated #3 by The Ring, but he still hasn't fought anyone who could objectively be described as an elite fighter, at any weight. so that rating is crazy as well.

        The Ring's ratings are far better and more objective than the alphabet ones, but they're certainly not perfect. They have just promoted Khan to #10 because he beat Barrera - even though that fight should have been a NC, and even though Barrera has never beaten a rated Lightweight and is way past his prime.

        Valero needs to fight a genuine elite Lightweight, someone who has proved themselves at the weight. J. Diaz, or Funeka, or someone like that. Even Reyes would be a much bigger test than Pitalua.
        Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-08-2009, 04:28 PM.

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        • Albert Maximo
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          #74
          Why Marquez no wanna fight this chamo no excuse!
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          Last edited by Albert Maximo; 04-08-2009, 06:16 PM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by warp1432
            How about Joan Guzman or Joel Casamayor?
            I think these guys, or any real top five fighter beat, him. He keeps his hands to low and chin too high, it's just a matter of time that someone catches him.

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            • Dave Rado
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              #76
              Originally posted by mev1
              I think these guys, or any real top five fighter beat, him. He keeps his hands to low and chin too high, it's just a matter of time that someone catches him.
              He's got a new trainer though, and that should be easy to fix.

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              • mev1
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                #77
                Originally posted by 1000 Left Fist
                humberto soto will murder that disabled midget. campbel will fuuck him up too.
                I couldn't agree more.

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                • bestboxingonly
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by El Cabron


                  exactly, I'm a JMM fan but I've been a Valero fan for a while now also

                  the hardcore Pac nuthuggers seem to be the ones going out of their way to diss Valero
                  Id like to see Pac vs. Valero as well though these guys seems kind of friends and shows a lot of respect for each other as I've seen him on Pacs recent birthday. I'm a Valero fan too but I think he does like Pac more than JMM, maybe that is why he choose to want to fight Marquez first b4 Pac. I like the idea Arum said that he gotta whup JMM first then Pac. War Valero war

                  Warpac
                  Last edited by bestboxingonly; 04-09-2009, 03:12 AM.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Papa Ace
                    I wonder whats taking so long for the Marquez camp to call out Valero. If this guy is one-dimensional this surely would be easy picking for Marquez.

                    Funny though, most of those dismissing Valero's accomplishments are JMM fans.
                    not quite, mi amigo!! i am a JMM fan because he is a real fighter, never a quitter. im ricky's fan as well because of his gangho style where every round is explosive. i like Manny the most because of his triumphs against many greats and that he's still improving after moving 9 divisions north (jr flyweight 106 - welterweight 143).....and valero still doesn't impress me...my 2cents opinion only !

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