Humberto Soto Vs. Edwin Valero

[yeks]

Chavez had no amateur career, Valero had over 50 amateur fights, before turning pro.

tnx for the info man... but i think we both agree that this valero kid has great power..

The record against tomato cans might speak for itself...the record against real fighters will be different.
Soto is a proven world class fighter. Valero is a curiosity.

man, soto's finest hour was his win against rocky juarez... he was bitcslapped to death by joan guzman..you are trying to glorify this soto as if he is the second coming of el terrible... dude, the only similarity they have is they both came from Tijuana, nothing else..
soto can fight, no doubt about that but stop yourself from believing that soto is some kind of an elite fighter who always fight world class opposition..

[poontango]

tnx for the info man... but i think we both agree that this valero kid has great power..



man, soto's finest hour was his win against rocky juarez... he was bitcslapped to death by joan guzman..you are trying to glorify this soto as if he is the second coming of el terrible... dude, the only similarity they have is they both came from Tijuana, nothing else..
soto can fight, no doubt about that but stop yourself from believing that soto is some kind of an elite fighter who always fight world class opposition..

Soto is world class. Valero is a curiosity. How much more poetic can I be?
Joan Guzman ran from Soto all night...and fought like a ***** if thats what you mean.
I'd like to see how slow ass Valero would do against a guy with track shoes on.

[Guest]

Coming from a dork with a pudge and a bright Orange backpack that doesnt really mean a whole lot.

Soto is not on that level? Really? Soto has fought and beat the far better comp..Valero has been knocking out tomato cans in japan...Do the maff.

Soto owns Valero.

Valero's defense is much worse and leaves himself open for the right hand, since he has a habit of not tucking his chin as he moves forward. This will make him an easy prey for Soto who is also a very good power puncher.
This would be a good fight to make since one of them is going to get KTFO. Since both fighters have ****ty defenses I believe it will come to who has the better chin and endurance.
This for certain will not be a boxing match, just an all out war.

Soto is world class. Valero is a curiosity. How much more poetic can I be?
Joan Guzman ran from Soto all night...and fought like a ***** if thats what you mean.
I'd like to see how slow ass Valero would do against a guy with track shoes on.

Win a decision for coming forward is a possibility.
Some judges don't like track shoes, they like aggression however well it works.
Something to consider.

[yeks]

Chavez had no amateur career, Valero had over 50 amateur fights, before turning pro.

Soto is world class. Valero is a curiosity. How much more poetic can I be?
Joan Guzman ran from Soto all night...and fought like a ***** if thats what you mean.
I'd like to see how slow ass Valero would do against a guy with track shoes on.

if soto is world class to you, i rest my case....
what do valero needs to do for him to take out that curiousity of yours? if knocking all his opponent is not enough and beating mosquera (ranked top 10 in his division and the champ), do he need to be crucified just for you to believe him..

like you, i also have doubt on valero against the likes of guzman.. i think guzman would UD him as what he did to soto..

[poontango]

if soto is world class to you, i rest my case....
what do valero needs to do for him to take out that curiousity of yours? if knocking all his opponent is not enough and beating mosquera (ranked top 10 in his division and the champ), do he need to be crucified just for you to believe him..

like you, i also have doubt on valero against the likes of guzman.. i think guzman would UD him as what he did to soto..

Yep, he's world class to me and Freddy Roach. I was at the post fight press conference at Cotto/Tony and asked Freddy about Pac fighting Soto. Roach looked at me and his exact quote was: "**** no...too tough of a fight, no need to risk it against him" ...
So I'm in good company in thinking Soto is world class.

[nujabes77]

soto by ****, and i would bet my house on it....

[yeks]

Yep, he's world class to me and Freddy Roach. I was at the post fight press conference at Cotto/Tony and asked Freddy about Pac fighting Soto. Roach looked at me and his exact quote was: "**** no...too tough of a fight, no need to risk it against him" ...
So I'm in good company in thinking Soto is world class.

i haven't read in your statement that roach says "soto is world class"...
roach is not willing to pit his cash cow with soto, that's what your post only imply.. but he also don't want pac to face valero.. he is just after the big payday fights..
roach is just trying to lure all the big names to fight pac so that win or lose, their pocket would be full of money.. stop with your mancrush on soto, just keep it to yourself.. j/k

[poontango]

i haven't read in your statement that roach says "soto is world class"...
roach is not willing to pit his cash cow with soto, that's what your post only imply.. but he also don't want pac to face valero.. he is just after the big payday fights..
roach is just trying to lure all the big names to fight pac so that win or lose, their pocket would be full of money.. stop with your mancrush on soto, just keep it to yourself.. j/k

I'd rather have a mancrush on a badass like Soto instead of a curiosity like Valero.
Go eat some sugar fatty.

[Titing Kabayo]

Easy for Sotto... too experienced and skillfull for Valero

[Pons]

Sotto is good, but fell short to beat Valero, Valero will bully him until the 6th round