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  • Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
    Hopkins himself said it was Floyd.

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    AND? Its not what Hopkins thinks, but what the fans think. and his legacy is above Floyds in terms of greatness, resume, and quality opponents faced.

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    • Originally posted by boxasmash View Post
      hopkins undisputed welterweight champion
      actually hopkins is super featherweight champ since that's where oscar started his career. get it right.

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      • Originally posted by dde91 View Post
        thats whack for you to say.

        The man on your picture got credit for knocking out a LW in Duran.
        No,no,no.I know that you are a big Hopkins fan,and thats cool,we all have fighters that we dig,but to say that Hopkins fought better quality opposition than Floyd or pacman is straight ridiculous.He was mw champ for ten years or so beating good but not great opposition and his best wins came against fighters fighting outside of their best weights,and dont bother mentioning Tarver as that joke calls himself a legend yet sports a 27/4 record.

        Dont get me wrong,B-Hop is a tremendous fighter,one of the best in the last 20 years but not THE best.Love him or hate him(and I am not particularly keen),its Floyd.Better skills,better resume,five weight champ,better opposition.There is no disgrace or slur on his name to call him one of the best fighters of the last 20 years.I am sure that he himself would be pretty happy with that,and so as a fan should you.

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        • Originally posted by minion View Post
          Nothing but an ignoramus aren't you.
          FFS! someone call social services,Rain man has got out again.

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          • Originally posted by dde91 View Post
            AND? Its not what Hopkins thinks, but what the fans think. and his legacy is above Floyds in terms of greatness, resume, and quality opponents faced.
            Off the top of my Head Its between Floyd, Hopkins, and Pacquiao.

            Thing is, Pacquiao, alot of people are going crazy over him, but they gotta realise he beat shot morales coming off a loss to raheem I think. David Diaz (who?) A Kentucky fried oscar de la hoya, and the results against Marquez were debatable.

            Hopkins has always been a smart matchmaker, if he wants to fight, chances are he's already seen something he knows he can exploit. In the beginning I had calzaghe by UD to beat hop, then I realized Hop saw that by keeping him turning, not set, parry the jab, roughing him up, he could win that fight and at 43 he nearly pulled it off. This is why I dont see him going anywhere near Chad dawson, because Chad's seriously quick, and has good output, good enough defenses too, think hop learnt his lesson from the taylor fights. His gameplan is very simple imo, to try and get over Roy Jones in the Legacy stakes by picking careful legacy fights, Im not taking away from his achievements though, for me, I think hopkins greatness is his Skillset and dedication. Wether he has taken the risks Floyd has that's debatable.

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            • Originally posted by Technical_Skill View Post
              Off the top of my Head Its between Floyd, Hopkins, and Pacquiao.

              Thing is, Pacquiao, alot of people are going crazy over him, but they gotta realise he beat shot morales coming off a loss to raheem I think. David Diaz (who?) A Kentucky fried oscar de la hoya, and the results against Marquez were debatable.

              Hopkins has always been a smart matchmaker, if he wants to fight, chances are he's already seen something he knows he can exploit. In the beginning I had calzaghe by UD to beat hop, then I realized Hop saw that by keeping him turning, not set, parry the jab, roughing him up, he could win that fight and at 43 he nearly pulled it off. This is why I dont see him going anywhere near Chad dawson, because Chad's seriously quick, and has good output, good enough defenses too, think hop learnt his lesson from the taylor fights. His gameplan is very simple imo, to try and get over Roy Jones in the Legacy stakes by picking careful legacy fights, Im not taking away from his achievements though, for me, I think hopkins greatness is his Skillset and dedication. Wether he has taken the risks Floyd has that's debatable.
              Its true Bernard handpicks opponents and usually knows their weakness before he picks them. He still has to execute it. And to be fair when you get on his level you get to pick ur opponents. Pavlik was expected to outwork him and he had trouble laying a glove on him. Even in the fights he's lost its been very close.

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              • i think he is!!!!!!

                definitely better than roy jones anyway, much better

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                • Without doubt you have to go with the third option

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                  • Originally posted by mr.crust View Post
                    No,no,no.I know that you are a big Hopkins fan,and thats cool,we all have fighters that we dig,but to say that Hopkins fought better quality opposition than Floyd or pacman is straight ridiculous.He was mw champ for ten years or so beating good but not great opposition and his best wins came against fighters fighting outside of their best weights,and dont bother mentioning Tarver as that joke calls himself a legend yet sports a 27/4 record.

                    Dont get me wrong,B-Hop is a tremendous fighter,one of the best in the last 20 years but not THE best.Love him or hate him(and I am not particularly keen),its Floyd.Better skills,better resume,five weight champ,better opposition.There is no disgrace or slur on his name to call him one of the best fighters of the last 20 years.I am sure that he himself would be pretty happy with that,and so as a fan should you.
                    fasho.. i understand what you are saying, and you got my respect.

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                    • Originally posted by The_Executioner View Post
                      Its true Bernard handpicks opponents and usually knows their weakness before he picks them. He still has to execute it. And to be fair when you get on his level you get to pick ur opponents. Pavlik was expected to outwork him and he had trouble laying a glove on him. Even in the fights he's lost its been very close.
                      Hopkins handpicked some fights in his career. But the Pavlik wasn't handpicked. Pavlik went looking for Hopkins, and Hopkins accepted. And Trinidad wasn't handpicked because he was in the MW tournament they had, and Him and HOpkins had to fight. De La Hoya had a paper belt that Hopkins went after. Tarver was LHW champion, and the Lineal champ. Winky was the Most avoided man in the sport at the time, and nobody wanted to fight him because he causes a bad style match up. Taylor was a up and Comer everybody wanted Hopkins to fight, and HOpkins fought him. He didn't have to fight the younger MW champ at the time, but still did for the fans.

                      Some fights he did do pick, but it was tune ups. Like the fights before DLH. And the fight before Taylor. Those were okay opposition that he could beat with one arm, but they were a tune up and to get more defenses. But that was only like 2-3 of his defenses.

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