Bigger FAIL - Vargas or Judah?

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  • Miburo
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    #21
    Judah's potential was wasted by no one but himself. Vargas was more a victim of bad matchmaking, thrown to the wolves too early, and he never recovered.

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    • warp1432
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      #22
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      vargas was ruined by tito... can't really blame vargas for failing.

      all judah's fails were self-inflicted.
      This is such bull****. Vargas was in the fight with DLH and had that determination that he had against Trinidad. It's not like Vargas dropped 3 straight right after losing or lacked the determination he had before.

      Trinidad didn't ruin ****.

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      • fightingfigs
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        #23
        Originally posted by Motofan
        Judah, because he had the talent to to be GREAT.
        GEt out of my yard is amazing!

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        • tito yuca
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          #24
          Originally posted by warp1432
          Vargas beating Quarey, Campas, Marquez, and Wright is better then anything Zab has done. Vargas was also competitive with Trinidad and De La Hoya. Vargas is clearly the better fighter.
          Exactly. Zab's best win is Cory Spinks, and he also has an L to him. Vargas never got KTFO in 2 rounds, and every time he fought against a guy of lesser skill, he annihilated him. Zab fought against tons of ****ty guys and had boring decisions, despite everyone here saying he has "great power". Vargas would also never lose to a guy like Baldomir, or fail to be even slightly competitive against guys like Cotto and Clottey. You people honestly think Zab would've done **** to Quartey, Winky, Oscar, and Tito?!?! GTFO here.

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          • DeltaSigChi4
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            #25
            I meant to vote for Vargas, or against Judah.

            Judah - 1
            Vargas +1

            It should be tied right now.

            E

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            • warp1432
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              #26
              Zab Judah's "talent" is also overrated. Fading in 4 rounds after pressure isn't talent. The man is fast, but there is a reason why Tszyu caught him. He's a pretty bad defensive fighter for a slickster.

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              • DarchinyFAN
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                #27
                Judah.... Atleast Vargas had his moment in the sun. Also, his career wasn't a prank on his fans.

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                • Slimey Limey
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                  #28
                  It's still a very close poll lads.

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                  • QUISQUEYA
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                    #29
                    At least Zab was PHYSICALLY ready for every fight. He can't help it that he is crazy.

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                    • QUISQUEYA
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by warp1432
                      Zab Judah's "talent" is also overrated. Fading in 4 rounds after pressure isn't talent. The man is fast, but there is a reason why Tszyu caught him. He's a pretty bad defensive fighter for a slickster.
                      How come I never heard anyone say this until mayweather said it?

                      You phuckers are bandwagon jumpers. Nobody was saying that two fights earlier went Zab did THIS:

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