Bigger FAIL - Vargas or Judah?

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  • -Swizzy-
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    #31
    Vargas has the better wins and Judah was arguably one of the most athletic boxers of this generation and he accomplished almost nothing so, Judah is EASILY the bigger fail.

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    • VaBoriKua 2.0
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      #32
      Originally posted by warp1432
      This is such bull****. Vargas was in the fight with DLH and had that determination that he had against Trinidad. It's not like Vargas dropped 3 straight right after losing or lacked the determination he had before.

      Trinidad didn't ruin ****.
      competitive vs odlh because of steroids

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      • street bully
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        #33
        Vargas has wins over two future HOFers in Ike Quartey and Winky Wright. Who has Zab ever beaten...Cory Spinks?

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        • QUISQUEYA
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          #34
          Originally posted by street bully
          Vargas has wins over two future HOFers in Ike Quartey and Winky Wright. Who has Zab ever beaten...Cory Spinks?
          Ike Quartey = HoF??

          WTF.

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          • Spacey1991
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            #35
            Zab, only reason Vargas lost his biggest fight was because he was rushed... he was too young to be put in against Trinidad and wasn't ready, that fight ruined him.

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            • elfag
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              #36
              Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
              How come I never heard anyone say this until mayweather said it?

              You phuckers are bandwagon jumpers. Nobody was saying that two fights earlier went Zab did THIS:


              Hmm yeah Judah did become the linear 147 champ, Vargas never came close to linear. Plus the fact that Vargas was busted for roids and blows up and gets fat between fights which shows lack of dedication. Judah looses a lot so what he might have never been the best but idk Ive got him over Vargas now.

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              • elfag
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                #37
                Originally posted by tito yuca
                You people honestly think Zab would've done **** to Quartey, Winky, Oscar, and Tito?!?! GTFO here.

                Zab is way smaller than those guys so of course he wouldnt have been competitive. He was at 140 for the longest and even at 147 he is still a small 147 who can still make 140 if he wants.

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                • QUISQUEYA
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by elfag
                  Hmm yeah Judah did become the linear 147 champ, Vargas never came close to linear. Plus the fact that Vargas was busted for roids and blows up and gets fat between fights which shows lack of dedication. Judah looses a lot so what he might have never been the best but idk Ive got him over Vargas now.
                  Zab just plain didn't belong in the WW division. He can beat a less-than-sturdy WW like Spinks. But the big boys? Baldomir, Clottey, etc? Not for him.

                  If Zab had stayed at JWW, he still could have done good things. Floyd and Forrest proved that you just can't hurt Baldomir. That was the worst possible opponent for him. Zab wants to hurt guys. He isn't a technical artist like Floyd. Bad matchmaking. Bad management. Bad promotion.

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                  • Slimey Limey
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
                    How come I never heard anyone say this until mayweather said it?

                    You phuckers are bandwagon jumpers. Nobody was saying that two fights earlier went Zab did THIS:

                    That was a swoll performance. I don't think Vargas has accomplished something like this.

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                    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Slimey Limey
                      That was a swoll performance. I don't think Vargas has accomplished something like this.
                      I think your missing the point though. Judah was by far the better talent between the two and never lived up to the hype.

                      People expected Judah to be on top for a long time and never had the discipline to do it.

                      Vargas on the other hand was a good prospect but made it through some tough fights with his toughness alone.

                      I think Zab's career is a bigger bust than Vargas. I don't think that Vargas has even been a bust, he was just progressed to rapidly.

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