Ring Mag welterweight rankings on ESPN lol Pacman is #5

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

I don't know how long you've been watching boxing but, a fighter's success in another division carries on into whatever division he moves in to. So pacquiao's wins over JMM, Diaz, Morales..... all count in the rankings. Its not JUST his win over DLH that is counted. This is how it is and always has been.

They count for P4P rankings, not divisional rankings. Thats absurd!!!!!!!!

[BennyST]

I don't know how long you've been watching boxing but, a fighter's success in another division carries on into whatever division he moves in to. So pacquiao's wins over JMM, Diaz, Morales..... all count in the rankings. Its not JUST his win over DLH that is counted. This is how it is and always has been.

It actually has only recently started becoming like this. Before the eighties you generally had to work your way up in each new division you entered. It's not always a fixed rule but it is much more common now that you can basically go straight to the top if you were already champ in another division.

[J.B.moneY.]

keep wishin you might just pull it off!it's amazing that pacman is ranked #5 when he has'nt even fought at jww that says a lot about him!

no it says how much freddie and him have stumped the public....manny is a true lightweight at this point of his carear

[Spray_resistant]

Yea the rankings are weird...I think Paul Williams is like #5 at Super Welterweight.

Oh you could only wish they were that reasonable, they have him at #2 at 154.

[-Swizzy-]

They count for P4P rankings, not divisional rankings. Thats absurd!!!!!!!!

I know, I don't agree with it either but thats the way it is. what can you do?

[warp1432]

Lol at you. The Collazo that fought Berto would of KOd Oscar like in 5 rounds. So yes a win over Collazo is better than a win over DLH at this point.

DLH was a SWW fighting at WW for the first time in 7 years. Pacquiao had a great night. But rankings wise he doesnt deserve to be ranked in the top 10 WWs let alone #5. Thats justt ridiculous.

And Pacquiao was a lightweight fighting at Welterweight. DLH made the welterweight limit, drained or not. The facts are that DLH was supposed to crush Pacquiao. Pacquiao proved people, including myself, wrong. Collazo would have easily beaten Oscar, but I still don't think a win over Collazo would have been lesss impressive because Oscar going into the fight was supposed to kill him(that and Collazo going into the Berto fight wasn't generally regarded as much. A tough fight for Berto, but everyone knew he lost easily to Mosley) Pacquiao's performance also showed he was a top 5 welterweight imo. He'd beat Berto, Collazo, Quintana, and the fighters lower then the top 5. I don't see why this really matters anyhow seeing as Pacquiao isn't one, two, or three so it has no impact on the vacant belt. It also probably won't matter because Pacquiao will be exiting those ratings come May 2nd.

Also saying he doesn't belong in the top 10 is exaggerating .Tell me what Delvin Rodruiguez and Zab Judah have done to warrant being above Manny Pacquiao.

[TheGR8TESTOAT]

On the ESPN scroll on the bottom of the screen...
Ring Magazine Welterweight Rankings
1. Shane Mosley
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Antonio Margarito
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacqiao

seriously...???

IMO

1. Mosley (until Cotto beats him again)
2. Cotto
3. Clottey
4. Berto
5. Collazo or maybe quintana

your opinion

antonio maggot shouldnt even be allowed on here

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

And Pacquiao was a lightweight fighting at Welterweight. DLH made the welterweight limit, drained or not. The facts are that DLH was supposed to crush Pacquiao. Pacquiao proved people, including myself, wrong. Collazo would have easily beaten Oscar, but I still don't think a win over Collazo would have been lesss impressive because Oscar going into the fight was supposed to kill him(that and Collazo going into the Berto fight wasn't generally regarded as much. A tough fight for Berto, but everyone knew he lost easily to Mosley) Pacquiao's performance also showed he was a top 5 welterweight imo. He'd beat Berto, Collazo, Quintana, and the fighters lower then the top 5. I don't see why this really matters anyhow seeing as Pacquiao isn't one, two, or three so it has no impact on the vacant belt. It also probably won't matter because Pacquiao will be exiting those ratings come May 2nd.

Also saying he doesn't belong in the top 10 is exaggerating .Tell me what Delvin Rodruiguez and Zab Judah have done to warrant being above Manny Pacquiao.

LOl At you Saying Pac would of beaten Quintana, Collazo or Berto. Simply ridiculous jajajaja LOL

Delvin Rodriguez had a draw with Hlatswayo(But he deserved to win) and he beated Alvarez whom gave Clottey a tough fight in a L.

And Judah, is a former WW champ end of.

PAcquiao should not be ranked as a WW period.

Beated DLH is not a excuse to have Pacquiao ranked that high.

Since the popularity of your opponent is a measure gauge ?

[boxasmash]

if mayweather was ranked #1 then pacquiao being ranked #5 sounds about right, they accomplished almost the same at 147 and many people think pacquiao could beat mayweather.

[S.G.]

I guess they feel beating Oscar De La Hoya at 147 is a bigger accomplishment than what most welterweight residents have achieved lately

and think he looked like enough of a threat at 147lbs to secure a top 5 place

i don't agree exactly, but i can understand

for me, it's
1. Shane Mosley
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Antonio Margarito
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Andre Berto
6. Luis Collazo
7. Carlos Quintana
8. Manny Pacquiao
9. ummm
10. ummm

any suggestions for 9. and 10.??? have i forgot anyone??