Originally posted by abdiel2k3
How do you beat a Counter Puncher?
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Funny, but it's an effective, legitimate dirty tactic. I for one have used it on several of my sparring sessions when I'm being outgunned or just plain tired and have to slow the guy down in front of me, of course I pretend that it was just an accident(lol). But yeah going back to the question.... I for one have been fortunate in my boxing experience to have faced natural counter-punchers, and these type of fighters pose a very difficult challenge cause natural counter-punchers tend to be the ones who are naturally gifted athletically, I mean if there's an opportunity to land a punch, you've gotta capitalize on it quick cause that "window of opportunity" closes real quick with these type of fighters. A perfect example would be the Pac - Marquez fight, that's why Pacquaio turned into a 1punch at a time fighter and man when I was watching the Pac - JMM fight I could totally relate to the difficulty Pac was having with Marquez's counterpunching. But yeah one of the most effective ways to really offset counterpunchers is to throw combos and jab, jab, jab. Depending on who your fighting sometimes these guys have been so comfortable just being a counter-puncher that they get thrown off when their opponent gives them their own medicine, as in the Marco Antonio Barrera vs. " Prince" Naseem Hamed. -
use alot of faints and get the other fighter to commit, and then catch him.....or smother him and make it a brawl....Comment
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Yeh, everyone has been correct so far. I'm just gonna throw my two cents in for the hell of it.
You've gotta roll your shoulders and feint, change distance constantly, and only throw punches when you're within range. Feint on the outside, fight on the inside. Put a quick jab in his face from underneath and then start throwing punches. Don't worry too much about where they land or how hard they are, just throw them. That was how Rocky Marciano beat Jersey Joe Walcott. He threw punches at his elbows, on his shoulders, wherever there was an opening. The accumulation of all that punishment slowed Walcott down considerably, so that at the end Marciano was faster than him.
The last thing you want to do is fight on the outside. The distance allows them to see better, and they're freer to move as they please. You have to take those advantages away. And don't ever paw with your jab from the outside, especially not against a counterpuncher. A lotta guys say it distracts them, but really it just opens you up like a can of beans.Last edited by whdempsey; 11-13-2004, 04:29 PM.Comment
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If you up the movements of your body and feet it will throw off some counterpunchers. He just wont know how you'll attack and where to place his counters. He cannot think. That's opens him up. Throw in some feints and then you got him really ****ed.Comment
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like Glen Johnson did RoyOriginally posted by beeatch!try swarming him - there'll be too many shots to counter!Comment
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Tell Manny to learn how to box,show him some tapes of Julio Cesar Chavez. Marquez is not only the best counter puncher but the best boxer Manny will ever have the privilege to fight. Manny doesnt have half the skill JCC had so forget beating Marquez or any real BOXER ever again cause he got exposed! If u see their fight again Marquez would jab and throw rights.You make it seem like he was just waiting for a punch to come flying at him which was only his hurt
left hand and counter. I saw very different and Manny does have a punchers chance but not the talent buddy.
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Make Marquez have to come to him. A taller opponent with a jab could do this better. He would have no choice but to come foward or be dominated from behind the jab. Anyone see JMM last fight? Thats one dimentional. He was really uncomfortable when his opponent wouldn't come to him. Its not hard to frustrate Marquez, winning though is a different matter. On paper Mannys style is made for him.Comment
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I've posted these before, but anyway in response to your statement " That Marquez is the best counter-puncher/boxer Pac has faced" I somewhat agree, I would rate Marquez second to Sasakul of Thailand as the best counter-puncher/ boxer Pac has ever faced even though Pac knocked him the f**k out As far as Manny being exposed in the JMM fight, I don't think Manny was exposed, that has been Pacquaio the whole time, One big left and that's it, in all his fights.Originally posted by kb8mvpTell Manny to learn how to box,show him some tapes of Julio Cesar Chavez. Marquez is not only the best counter puncher but the best boxer Manny will ever have the privilege to fight. Manny doesnt have half the skill JCC had so forget beating Marquez or any real BOXER ever again cause he got exposed! If u see their fight again Marquez would jab and throw rights.You make it seem like he was just waiting for a punch to come flying at him which was only his hurt
left hand and counter. I saw very different and Manny does have a punchers chance but not the talent buddy.Comment
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