Do you think a boxer's won-loss record is a number which is most decieving in boxing?

[Chunk..]

To me they do though. Both excellent fights.

I thought Reid - Calzaghe was an excellent fight too. Doesn't mean Robin Reid is an excellent fighter though.

[Ryn0]

I thought Reid - Calzaghe was an excellent fight too. Doesn't mean Robin Reid is an excellent fighter though.

Reid is underrated, he's not elite we all know that but nonetheless was a world class fighter for a time.

He had his limitations but was a tough fighter.

[Chunk..]

Reid is underrated, he's not elite we all know that but nonetheless was a world class fighter for a time.

He had his limitations but was a tough fighter.

Opinions are like arseholes! Everyone has got one.

Don't want this swaying into a Calzaghe hate thread(which it probably will anyway!) But the point i was making in the first place when i bought Calzaghe up was that, he has only fought ONE elite P4P fighter his whole career. (Hopkins).

That's all.

[Dynamite Kid]

Opinions are like arseholes! Everyone has got one.

Don't want this swaying into a Calzaghe hate thread(which it probably will anyway!) But the point i was making in the first place when i bought Calzaghe up was that, he has only fought ONE elite P4P fighter his whole career. (Hopkins).

That's all.

Was Hopkins still elite though when Calzaghe beat him ? not for me.

He is still a good fighter, but he has not been elite for a while imo.

Joe has never beaten an elite fighter imo.

[Sparked_1985]

Tony Booth was better than his record suggested. lol

[Chunk..]

Was Hopkins still elite though when Calzaghe beat him ? not for me.

He is still a good fighter, but he has not been elite for a while imo.

Joe has never beaten an elite fighter imo.

It's a double edge sword as far as Hopkins is concerned. He was P4P, but i suppose you're right in that he wasn't as good as he once was at 160, but he's good when he fought Calzaghe still if ya know what i mean? And he gave Calzaghe the toughest fight of his career IMO.

[Dynamite Kid]

Tony Booth was better than his record suggested. lol

Yeah true dat

He beat the man who beat the man who beat the man

Booth>Sheika>Johnson>Roy Jones

[Sparked_1985]

Yeah true dat

He beat the man who beat the man who beat the man

Booth>Sheika>Johnson>Roy Jones

Done and done.

Definitive answer to the thread: Tony Booth.

[Chunk..]

Done and done.

Definitive answer to the thread: Peter Buckley.

I agree. He sent Hamed to hell and back.

[tjadl6386]

Records can be very deceiving.

Perfect examples:

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. - undefeated but is being held back because he is not yet ready to fight the bigger names.
Edwin Valero - also undefeated but we haven't seen him fight tougher opposition. He gets a chance to prove himself this month.
Humberto Soto - has 7 losses but he's a good fighter.
Cristian Mijares - has 5 losses but a very good technical boxer. He's been swaying from that effective style lately. Hopefully, he gets his act together.