Do you think a boxer's won-loss record is a number which is most decieving in boxing?

[Chunk..]

hes fought enough world champions so i dont really need 2 prove anything 2 u lol,but carry on babbling ur rubbish plenty of people on this site will back you up

Only one of then was an elite P4P fighter. Hopkins.

The likes of Richie Woodhall, Byron Mitchell and co don't mean much in the bigger picture.

[Sparked_1985]

Only one of then was an elite P4P fighter. Hopkins.

The likes of Richie Woodhall, Byron Mitchell and co don't mean much in the bigger picture.

Richie Woodhall would have battered Jeff Lacy.

Not bad Richie.

The Robin Reid who Calzaghe fought is up there with Kessler imo.

Reid and Woodhall are two very good wins. The bigger picture is always warped anyway since anything outside of America is scorned upon.

I'll grant you: Mario Veit- was ****.

[The_Demon]

Only one of then was an elite P4P fighter. Hopkins.

The likes of Richie Woodhall, Byron Mitchell and co don't mean much in the bigger picture.

someone knows how to use boxrec

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

It's simple, you don't look at the win loss as much as you do who he has beaten.

The same reason Chavez jr. can't get any respect because he hasn't fought anyone yet.

On the other side of that argument, Chavez Sr. fought a ton of subpar guys but also fought the best of his era.

I don't have a problem with a fighter fighting a lot to stay busy, I just can't judge him until he fights someone of quality.

[Chunk..]

Richie Woodhall would have battered Jeff Lacy.

Not bad Richie.

The Robin Reid who Calzaghe fought is up there with Kessler imo.

Reid and Woodhall are two very good wins.

20 years down the line when people talk about Calzaghe, His wins against Reid and Woodhall aren't going to be the first thing that pops into someones head.

Calzaghe is a talented fighter with a sub-par resume IMO.

[The_Demon]

20 years down the line when people talk about Calzaghe, His wins against Reid and Woodhall aren't going to be the first thing that pops into someones head.

Calzaghe is a talented fighter with a sub-par resume IMO.

i disagree but respect ur opinion

[MANGLER]

Records ain't the be all end all. Depends on the circumstances of a fighter's career.

[Dynamite Kid]

Truly GREAT fighters have losses, if they dont have losses they have either been in an era where the division was lackluster (Larry Holmes) or their career has carefully managed.

[SHB]

20 years down the line when people talk about Calzaghe, His wins against Reid and Woodhall aren't going to be the first thing that pops into someones head.

Calzaghe is a talented fighter with a sub-par resume IMO.

To me they do though. Both excellent fights.

[Dynamite Kid]

Richie Woodhall would have battered Jeff Lacy.

Not bad Richie.

The Robin Reid who Calzaghe fought is up there with Kessler imo.

Reid and Woodhall are two very good wins. The bigger picture is always warped anyway since anything outside of America is scorned upon.

I'll grant you: Mario Veit- was ****.

I always thought that guys like Woodhall and Reid were just lucky to be around at a point where the landscape was relatively poor. I consider them both European level fighters that were luck enough to be around when good fighters like Benn/Eubank were on the slide.

Woodhall/Malinga/Nardiello/Ried all held world titles, but i dont consider any of them to be worthy of a world title. Like i said i just think they were around at the right time.

Herol Graham was a better fighter than all of those guys. Problem is Graham fought in an era that had great fighters like McCallum/Kalambay etc

Graham was boxing Charles Brewers ears off even at the age of 37 before he got caught late in the fight.