Floyd Mayweather vs. prime Roberto Duran at lightweight: who wins?

[-Antonio-]

Duran wins, without any doubt in my mind. standing by the ropes and shoulder rolling while waiting to counter wouldn't work against Duran.

There's just no way. Duran was too smart inside. Ricky Hatton he is not.

[IMDAZED]

again with namecalling. you look like you're getting really emotional and you shouldn't feel that way. sosa's style was more of a technician than duran's was. that obvious. styles make fights right? so what if he lost to cotto, floyd beats cotto, and cotto was also a good boxer. duran was a brwler at best, who did possess fundamentals, but against floyd at 135? he'd be too slow for floyd. he'd get left hooked to death, and duran threw his guard down a lot especially his right hand and floyd's timing is impecible. duran was very good body puncher, floyd's shoulder roll may not get the job done in that aspect, but his ability to block punches and then counter, a rare skill in boxing, something duran didn't have, would make duran look a little amaterish. floyd's skillset can be described as an array of fighters like srl, some srr, roy jones, meldrick taylor, whitaker, terry norris, james toney, all of these fighters combined in some way make up floyd mayweather
jr. duran had problems with boxers when they moved. but he did have the ability to make them fight his fight, mental edge he possessed was astonishing, but floyd's mindset is too sharp, he would make duran use his own style against him and confuse the **** out of him, espeially at 135. floyd's athleticism was a thing of beauty, face it folks. his ability to chage tempos throughout a round is something only truly great fighters had. floyd beats duran because duran wouldn't be able to make floyd fight duran's fight, floyd must havea bunch of wires and transmitters upstairs in his mind, because he always does something to change the preplexity of the fight, and it comes in bursts, then the tempo changes, he did this with hatton, a guy who's skillset can be compared with duran's.

floyd would be duran.

Of course he would. Easier than he beat Sosa.

[-Antonio-]

again with namecalling. you look like you're getting really emotional and you shouldn't feel that way. sosa's style was more of a technician than duran's was. that obvious. styles make fights right? so what if he lost to cotto, floyd beats cotto, and cotto was also a good boxer. duran was a brwler at best, who did possess fundamentals, but against floyd at 135? he'd be too slow for floyd. he'd get left hooked to death, and duran threw his guard down a lot especially his right hand and floyd's timing is impecible. duran was very good body puncher, floyd's shoulder roll may not get the job done in that aspect, but his ability to block punches and then counter, a rare skill in boxing, something duran didn't have, would make duran look a little amaterish. floyd's skillset can be described as an array of fighters like srl, some srr, roy jones, meldrick taylor, whitaker, terry norris, james toney, all of these fighters combined in some way make up floyd mayweather
jr. duran had problems with boxers when they moved. but he did have the ability to make them fight his fight, mental edge he possessed was astonishing, but floyd's mindset is too sharp, he would make duran use his own style against him and confuse the **** out of him, espeially at 135. floyd's athleticism was a thing of beauty, face it folks. his ability to chage tempos throughout a round is something only truly great fighters had. floyd beats duran because duran wouldn't be able to make floyd fight duran's fight, floyd must havea bunch of wires and transmitters upstairs in his mind, because he always does something to change the preplexity of the fight, and it comes in bursts, then the tempo changes, he did this with hatton, a guy who's skillset can be compared with duran's.

floyd would be duran.

This is sig worthy material if I've ever seen it.

[oldgringo]

This is sig worthy material if I've ever seen it.

It's absolutely comical how Duran's skill set is comparable to Hatton's, but Floyd is a supreme mix of Leonard, Whitaker, Toney, Taylor, and Jones with just a DASH of Sugar Ray Robinson sprinkled on top. Quite a distorted take on things.

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I guarantee that the most he's seen of a prime Duran is the three-second gif in Malcolm's profile.

By the statement he made, it sounds like you are right. Weird though, usually people who have a clue about boxing, cannot make too ridiculous statement and he definitely does have a clue.

[-Antonio-]

It's absolutely comical how Duran's skill set is comparable to Hatton's, but Floyd is a supreme mix of Leonard, Whitaker, Toney, Taylor, and Jones with just a DASH of Sugar Ray Robinson sprinkled on top. Quite a distorted take on things.

Dude actually took the time to argue Sosa was more technical than Duran. And he expects us to believe h has his whole career set. Yeah I bet it's collecting dust in his basement.

[pbftxrs316]

I'll explain. I never said Hatton was equipped to take Floyd's 0 btw, but I did think he'd give him problems early on. I admit I wasn't right about that.

Duran could throw every punch in the book. He was a gifted inside fighter who knew what punches to throw, how to subtlely slip punches inside, and how to mix up his punches well.

He had the chin to take Floyd's counterpunches and continue to press forward. He had a great jab that he could throw from different angles, and double up when necessary. Like he did against Sugar in the first fight, he'd feint effectively, something that's vital against Floyd. Duran also had the ability to land his right hand over the top from outside, another important weapon when facing Floyd.

pretty good argument, but his insdie game had nothing on floyd's. because floyd knew how to utilize his arsenal in the pocket better. he know he didn't have to throw hard punches all the time to get his point across. watch round 8 in the corley fight. he could not only slip and counter(off the block too inside), he went the body body very well right as his oppnent was throwing punches, and then he'd take it out of you, then moved around the ring to make you follow him, just to to again whenever he felt like it. he's a wizard with this. duran had good d in the pocket and fighting inside, but his strongest asset there was his ability to land punches to the body and his overhand right, ill give him that. he could slip punches good inside, but against floyd who knew how to utilize that ring like nobody i've ever seen, besides myself of course, he wouldn't land really anything that effective because floyd is not a standstill fighter persay, but he knew how to fight standing still because of his athleticism and his ability to should roll inside the pocket, but shouder rolling and then countering, his handspeed would be too fast for duran to stop it. duran would have to throw combinations to land clean shots on floyd and by that time, floyd would be gettin gready to position his body at another angle, possibly a few angles. he's so keen on movement and abilty to punch well feinting and make the punches look sharp, precise and thrown perfectly beautiful, which is something i feel he does in his camps and workouts, working that part of his body, to get low to avoid punches and then countering let's say to the body. floyd knows how to glide around the ring, his rhythm combined with his overall speed and intuition would give any all time great serious problems, serious problems. this kid knows how to work that ring to his skillset. duran at times looked sloppy in the ring a he really couldn't fight off of the ropes that ell, because when he wanted to, floyd could bully you coming forward, and know how to fight well when his opponen't back is on the ropes. he knows how to go around and land punches that many people wouldn't think of throwing because of how they position themselves when doing it, making it risky for them to get countered unless throwing a barrage of punches.

floyd also knew how to land punches off the ropes against fighters who were throwing combinations at him, like he did with de la hoya in round 5, perfect timing and it offset ocar's rhythm. beating floyd, you have to come the best gameplan and some spontenaity also. you have to be poised throughout the whole fight, stay patient, calm, and very very smart in there. of course you have to have all the physical abilities and you would have to confuse floyd enough to outthink him, duran wouldn't do this, he's gotten too overwhelmed in his big fights that were losses.

floyd always shows patience and knew how to adjust his whole rhythmitic tempo while blocking or slipping punches angling his body around so he'd be out of the way for the incoming. duran didn't not have good body positioning and wasn't able to change tempos like floyd did.

it was floyd laying on the ropes, blocking punches, taking some punches, for however he wanted because of the he crossed blocked his shoulder roll. this could last for a few minutes, maybe a few rounds, then he'd get you comfortable only to smack the **** out of you with a counterpunch, and change the pace of the fight to where he wants it to be, both his and your tempo. duran would have to be smart enough not to let floyd take him out of his game, and he would have to have much confidence in his gameplan to begin with. because floyd reads fighters very well, duran read styles well, that's a gift they both possess, but floyd's mental game is so in tact, duran would have to be in killer mode and draw floyd into his fight, not the other wayaround, because duran had skills, no doubt and good chin, but floyd's mind in that ring, is a gift. and we all know, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

floyd didn't waste punches, throw unnecesary punches, he was like a rattlesnake, but with the mindset of cheetah, fast thinking. floyd's best weapon was his fast thinking, thinking of it before he he does. duran didn't have this gift. so, once again, floyd beats duran.

[IMDAZED]

pretty good argument, but his insdie game had nothing on floyd's. because floyd knew how to utilize his arsenal in the pocket better. he know he didn't have to throw hard punches all the time to get his point across. watch round 8 in the corley fight. he could not only slip and counter(off the block too inside), he went the body body very well right as his oppnent was throwing punches, and then he'd take it out of you, then moved around the ring to make you follow him, just to to again whenever he felt like it. he's a wizard with this. duran had good d in the pocket and fighting inside, but his strongest asset there was his ability to land punches to the body and his overhand right, ill give him that. he could slip punches good inside, but against floyd who knew how to utilize that ring like nobody i've ever seen, besides myself of course, he wouldn't land really anything that effective because floyd is not a standstill fighter persay, but he knew how to fight standing still because of his athleticism and his ability to should roll inside the pocket, but shouder rolling and then countering, his handspeed would be too fast for duran to stop it. duran would have to throw combinations to land clean shots on floyd and by that time, floyd would be gettin gready to position his body at another angle, possibly a few angles. he's so keen on movement and abilty to punch well feinting and make the punches look sharp, precise and thrown perfectly beautiful, which is something i feel he does in his camps and workouts, working that part of his body, to get low to avoid punches and then countering let's say to the body. floyd knows how to glide around the ring, his rhythm combined with his overall speed and intuition would give any all time great serious problems, serious problems. this kid knows how to work that ring to his skillset. duran at times looked sloppy in the ring a he really couldn't fight off of the ropes that ell, because when he wanted to, floyd could bully you coming forward, and know how to fight well when his opponen't back is on the ropes. he knows how to go around and land punches that many people wouldn't think of throwing because of how they position themselves when doing it, making it risky for them to get countered unless throwing a barrage of punches.

floyd also knew how to land punches off the ropes against fighters who were throwing combinations at him, like he did with de la hoya in round 5, perfect timing and it offset ocar's rhythm. beating floyd, you have to come the best gameplan and some spontenaity also. you have to be poised throughout the whole fight, stay patient, calm, and very very smart in there. of course you have to have all the physical abilities and you would have to confuse floyd enough to outthink him, duran wouldn't do this, he's gotten too overwhelmed in his big fights that were losses.

floyd always shows patience and knew how to adjust his whole rhythmitic tempo while blocking or slipping punches angling his body around so he'd be out of the way for the incoming. duran didn't not have good body positioning and wasn't able to change tempos like floyd did.

it was floyd laying on the ropes, blocking punches, taking some punches, for however he wanted because of the he crossed blocked his shoulder roll. this could last for a few minutes, maybe a few rounds, then he'd get you comfortable only to smack the **** out of you with a counterpunch, and change the pace of the fight to where he wants it to be, both his and your tempo. duran would have to be smart enough not to let floyd take him out of his game, and he would have to have much confidence in his gameplan to begin with. because floyd reads fighters very well, duran read styles well, that's a gift they both possess, but floyd's mental game is so in tact, duran would have to be in killer mode and draw floyd into his fight, not the other wayaround, because duran had skills, no doubt and good chin, but floyd's mind in that ring, is a gift. and we all know, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

floyd didn't waste punches, throw unnecesary punches, he was like a rattlesnake, but with the mindset of cheetah, fast thinking. floyd's best weapon was his fast thinking, thinking of it before he he does. duran didn't have this gift. so, once again, floyd beats duran.

Have you met Floyd? You could be his Bundini Brown, you know. Or maybe become boxing's first cheerleader? Think about it.

[pbftxrs316]

I think you are completely off this time. I think you are getting down to Sin City level.

i'll say it again, duran was not a better technician than sosa was overall. duran was a better fighter, knew how to mix it up, went to the body, but true boxing, duran didn't do better than sosa, period. there's nothing wrong in saying this. sosa had great technical skills, duran had skills, a good chin, power, heart, whatever else, duran was the better fighter, no doubt about it, but duran was not a technician, he just had many abilities physically and knew how to wear his opponent's down, which is why i'm making this claim. styles makes fights people, and duran's style wouldn't be good enough to get him the win. sosa had a better shot at beating floyd, that's how i see it, that's the way i'm calling it.

[pbftxrs316]

Have you met Floyd? You could be his Bundini Brown, you know. Or maybe become boxing's first cheerleader? Think about it.

yeah, funny.