How can you NOT like Mayweather..... The Greatness of Floyd's Ability!!!!!

[El Dominicano]

LOL, thats my boy DIOS DOMINICANO. You see DIOS, I can reason with you, dont know how the hell I made your ignore list!

Should have known. No one else uses that font

Yo Dios, why you always getting banned? and nice to have you back

[QUISQUEYA]

Well, Tito was #1 pfp at the time, he looked invincible. Not sure I agree about Oscar thou, eventhou he lost in my eyes to Sturm, he was a lot better than when Floyd fought him. And of course, lets not even mention Winky, Joe C, Pavlik and Tarver.

I see that you must agree with me. Because I give him a lot of credit for the tarver win. He made the other guys move up. Winky basically moved up almost two classes.

Winky shouldn't fight above SMW. No way. And pavlik can't fight guys that size. Kelly needs to stay at 160.

Re: Oscar. When Floyd fought Oscar, Floyd was giving up a huge disadvatgae in size. Hop had the advantage in every possible dimension. If you give Hop much credit for that, then you won't mind mayweather/marquez. Right?

To be fair.

[QUISQUEYA]

LOL, thats my boy DIOS DOMINICANO. You see DIOS, I can reason with you, dont know how the hell I made your ignore list!

HYPOTHETICALLY, If I was this DIOS person that y'all are talking about, then it would be great to see you guys.

[Del Coqui]

Great fight and ko for Tito, but Roy Jones was the p4p best fighter in the world then. I can't think of one list or boxing magazine that had Tito ahead of Roy. If you can, Im all ears.

Some publishers had Roy ahead others had Tito, those who know boxing and compared their level of opposition can draw their own conclusions, Tito-Vargas fight was 9 yrs ago, you really want me to dig p4p lists from 9 yrs ago?

[El Dominicano]

I see that you must agree with me. Because I give him a lot of credit for the tarver win. He made the other guys move up. Winky basically moved up almost two classes.

Winky shouldn't fight above SMW. No way. And pavlik can't fight guys that size. Kelly needs to stay at 160.

Re: Oscar. When Floyd fought Oscar, Floyd was giving up a huge disadvatgae in size. Hop had the advantage in every possible dimension. If you give Hop much credit for that, then you won't mind mayweather/marquez. Right?

To be fair.

MOST and I mean MOST people don't think like that. I've said it before, Pac, JMM and Mayweather are closer in size then any other WW, except Berto even though he started at M.W

They know Floyd's greatness and that is why they'd all like to pin a giant against him and then start bitching about how boring the fight was, just because the little guy doesn't engage the giant...same **** over and over

[Del Coqui]

I see that you must agree with me. Because I give him a lot of credit for the tarver win. He made the other guys move up. Winky basically moved up almost two classes.

Winky shouldn't fight above SMW. No way. And pavlik can't fight guys that size. Kelly needs to stay at 160.

Re: Oscar. When Floyd fought Oscar, Floyd was giving up a huge disadvatgae in size. Hop had the advantage in every possible dimension. If you give Hop much credit for that, then you won't mind mayweather/marquez. Right?

To be fair.

Fair? Yes and No. Yes, Floyd was coming up, No, Oscar fought a competitive fight with Stevie 2 pounds and shortly afterwards got nearly killed by Pacquiao. Oscar wasnt' Oscar anymore, I saw a very young prospect pick him apart in the gym, Mosley had his way in sparring too, I knew Oscar would get outpointed.

[El Jesus]

This isn't a triangle theory, but a valid comparison. And do you actually believe Ricky was at his best when he fought Floyd? Even after he struggled with Collazo and said 147 wasn't his best weight?

To be honest, the best ricky hatton was the one at 140, when he obviously and clearly wanted no part of floyd mayweather. By the time he actually wanted the fight, he had no more negotiation leverage, like he would have when he took the title from tszyu.

However i cant deny that he was still undefeated and p4p at the time, regardless. It was hattons own fault he waited THAT LONG to get a mayweather fight.

How can you say its not a triangle theory when mayweather and pacs styles ARE NOT THE SAME. This would be different if pacman and mayweather fought in a similar manner, but they dont. Its a different style altogether, so YES it is a triangle theory. Unless we want to start hating on floyd for not knocking out castillo in 4

[El Jesus]

Great fight and ko for Tito, but Roy Jones was the p4p best fighter in the world then. I can't think of one list or boxing magazine that had Tito ahead of Roy. If you can, Im all ears.

I think the only time that happened was when oscar leap frogged roy, i could be mistaken, its been alot of years and its hard to memorize all those p4p lists.

[JAB5239]

Some publishers had Roy ahead others had Tito, those who know boxing and compared their level of opposition can draw their own conclusions, Tito-Vargas fight was 9 yrs ago, you really want me to dig p4p lists from 9 yrs ago?

Like I said, I can't remember a single publication having Tito ahead of Roy, so if you could find some proof, that'd be great.

As far as their level of op, Roy was defending his unified titles against mandatories at the time. Tito's op with Reid and Vargas was slightly better, but not enough for him to surpass Jones for p4p best fighter accolades.

[QUISQUEYA]

To be honest, the best ricky hatton was the one at 140, when he obviously and clearly wanted no part of floyd mayweather. By the time he actually wanted the fight, he had no more negotiation leverage, like he would have when he took the title from tszyu.

However i cant deny that he was still undefeated and p4p at the time, regardless. It was hattons own fault he waited THAT LONG to get a mayweather fight.

How can you say its not a triangle theory when mayweather and pacs styles ARE NOT THE SAME. This would be different if pacman and mayweather fought in a similar manner, but they dont. Its a different style altogether, so YES it is a triangle theory. Unless we want to start hating on floyd for not knocking out castillo in 4

A Hatton/Floyd fight when both were at 140 would have been a massacre. i think Hatton benefited from the Collazo/Urango/castillo trip. It gave him more experience, built his confidence and allowed his face/scar tissue to get better.

Even hatton's dad admits that back in 2004/2005, they weren't ready "style-wise" for Mayweather.

Hatton had JUST beat Tszyu when he flew to Jersey to watch Floyd/gatti. And after that display, none of the JWW's wanted the mayweather fight. People will re-write history, but the ONLY JWW who was calling for FMJ was Vivian Harris. And he peed down his leg in the maussa fight.