The Doctor K brothers - the greatest heavyweight champs in history!

[Love Tunney]

Lol seriously though guys lets not bring race and stuff into it. Vitali is a great boxer lets leave it at thet.

Yes Vitali is a great boxer.

[Fulcrum29]

Yeah, the thing is us europeans must accept that there is a scoring system in boxing, for example undefeated fighters get +5 points, boring fighters get -5 points, American fighters get +100 points.

you're fast becoming one of my favorite poster's here.

you do speak sooth.

[Fulcrum29]

Just how popular are the K bros in Germany? I hear a lot about them being accepted as the country's "adopted sons" and whatnot when it comes to sports, but are the general German public (not just those tens of thousands who buy tickets and PPVs) as appreciative of them as it's made it to be? Do they consider them effectively "German", despite being from Ukraine?

who cares what they consider them Vitali's fight against gomez was watched by 11 million german households and broadcast in like 60 countries.

[TheGreatA]

Just how popular are the K bros in Germany? I hear a lot about them being accepted as the country's "adopted sons" and whatnot when it comes to sports, but are the general German public (not just those tens of thousands who buy tickets and PPVs) as appreciative of them as it's made it to be? Do they consider them effectively "German", despite being from Ukraine?

They watch Nikolai Valuev, they used to watch Henry Maske and Sven Ottke.

The Klitschkos are like prime Mike Tyson or Arturo Gatti compared to those three.

[werewolf]

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Furthermore, all their so called media-hyped greats of the past, like Ali and Louis that they threw in, should have an asterisk next to their titles because Russian and eastern European heavies who are now proving themselves to be so dominant, were not allowed to fight professionally in their time. They never fought one.

Despite the constant propaganda in the controlled American media, parroted on these boxing forums, that the heavyweight division now "sucks", the exact opposite is the case. The heavyweight division today is stronger and more truly international than it has ever been before.

My only complaint is that because the top heavies are now so big and skilled there is no longer a realistic place in boxing for a man weighing just over 200 pounds unless he is willing to face a huge weight handicap, whereas the lighter weight classes are separated by a mere three pounds or so. Boxing needs at least one additional superheavyweight classification.

The thought of a Superheavyweight division enrages me...

The thought of a superheavyweight division "enrages" you, huh? Can you articulate your reasons for becoming "enraged" when you think of this? What other thoughts "enrage" you?

[werewolf]

Ali appeared to be china-chinned against the smaller Henry Cooper.

Can you imagine what Vitali would do to him?

Ali didn't just appear to be china-chinned against Cooper in the first fight, he was KNOCKED OUT by Cooper in the first fight. His manager has confessed to cheating and giving him extra time between rounds to recover by slicing open his glove. This was just one of many many crooked fights that Ali allegedly won! Why haven't the record books been corrected to show Cooper winning that first fight!?

What's more, the corrupt American mass media that endlessly hypes Clay alias Ali is in collusion here too. I watched an ESPN film of Cooper-Clay 1. What they did was carefully splice the rounds together so that it appeared there was complete and normal continuity between the rounds, and they made no mention whatsoever of the delay between the rounds, so that anyone who was not in the know would have thought it was a perfectly normal and honest fight.

In fact, they have taken all the films of this fight that they could find and spliced the rounds together. I don't know of any original unaltered film version that still exists of that fight, and it is now uncertain how much time actually transpired due to Dundee and Clay's cheating. I think it was over four minutes, but even if they gained one second it's still the same, Cooper KO'd Clay!

Cooper only weighed 185 in that fight. Another boxer, a guy with a losing record, Alonzo Johnson, also handily beat Clay, tho Clay was given one of his many many fake decision wins, and Johnson also weighed in the 180's. None of those guys would have any chance against the K brothers.

[werewolf]

This is what the thread's about - and the heavyweight division today is much stronger and much more truly international than it was in the past, despite the propaganda from the talking heads on the controlled US mass media, Kellerman and Atlas and all the rest, all dutifully parroted by the nitwits on these boxing forums. The media-hyped American champs of the past never had to box against Russians and eastern Europeans, or even Cubans like Gomez, for that matter. They should have an asterisk next to their names.




http://video.google.com/videosearch?...&hl=en&tab=wv#


Here's the final round of the Gomez fight. It tells the whole story. The doctor K brothers are now so great they no longer even get punched! It's been years, I think, since either one of them even took a solid punch! What heavyweight champ has ever been able to say that before? What heavyweight champ was ever so totally dominant before?

Gomez had an amateur record in Cuba of 158-12. He had only lost one out of 45 fights as a pro.

[dans]

Anyone who says these two are the greatest heavyweight champs in history deserve to be clowned all day, what a joke.

Ali, Louis, Marciano, Lewis, Holmes, Johnson, etc.. >>>>>> Klitchsckos.

Listen the brothers are great heavyweights and have dominated the last few years without a doubt, but let's be realistic here. You could combine the best wins of their career and it wouldn't hold a candle to the names above.

[Mayorga-Rules]

Ken Norton beats both of them.

[dans]

[QUOTE=werewolf;5000636]This is what the thread's about - and the heavyweight division today is much stronger and much more truly international than it was in the past, despite the propaganda from the talking heads on the controlled US mass media, Kellerman and Atlas and all the rest, all dutifully parroted by the nitwits on these boxing forums. The media-hyped American champs of the past never had to box against Russians and eastern Europeans, or even Cubans like Gomez, for that matter. They should have an asterisk next to their names.

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Ahahahahahahahahahahha. Most hilarious thing I've heard all day.

Gomez' was knocked out in the first round against Yanqui Diaz!



Too funny werewolf. You have a knack for sarcasm like no other.