Would every notable WW have beaten DLH the night he fought Pacman?

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    #41
    Originally posted by Malcolm.
    Pacman outweighed Oscar
    Does it matter? Oscar is clearly the bigger fighter.

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    • Rich Loc
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      #42
      Originally posted by Addition
      Does it matter? Oscar is clearly the bigger fighter.
      Who was clearly weight drained. Oscar should have had a weight advantage but he didn’t. Boxing is based on weight not reach or height classes

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      • strugler
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        #43
        Williams wont get credit for fighting an inactive Winky if Pac doesnt get credit for beating an Oscar coming from a win against forbes and a competetive fight against floyd.

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          #44
          saying that "any top 10" welter could have beaten DLH is an absolute discredit to pac's win. he was the underdog...

          ****. this is a win that i thought nobody would try to be as big of a *** and try to discredit it...

          dlh having difficulties at welter has been taken into account prior to the fight. and he was still supposed to ko pac...

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          • dans
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            #45
            Originally posted by Malcolm.
            Who was clearly weight drained. Oscar should have had a weight advantage but he didn’t. Boxing is based on weight not reach or height classes
            True Oscar should've weighed close to 160 on fight night if he was going to win.

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            • Benny Leonard
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              #46
              Originally posted by strugler
              Did berbick jump two divisions practically 3 to make ALI quit?Did Ali 2 fights before gave a competetive fight against the p4p#1?
              Im asking you. did you think when the fight was announced at 147 that it was unfair for Oscar and an advantage for Pac?
              Pac fought at 135 and weighed in at fight-night against Diaz at 147. Oscar, who was dead and drained, weighed less than Pac that night of their WW fight.

              Floyd fought Oscar at 154 {division} and weighed in at 164+ (it was said). Big difference between being healthy and being dead.

              If it was at 154 it wouldn't have been fair for Pac. At 147, I had my concerns if Oscar would show up flat. Once you show up flat/drained, it doesn't matter a whole lot of what you were at a higher weight. Ask Roy Jones Jr. or Chris Byrd or the many other names Roach pointed out.

              If Oscar was at his best at 147, say when he fought Shane, forget it, the fight would not only be unfair but it would have never happened.

              Just to note: Other fighters in history have fought bigger opponents and when the opponent was at his best/healthy. Don't make more of it than it is. That is what I'm saying. You should be along the lines of what Freddie has been saying. At least he is honest about it.

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                #47
                Originally posted by strugler
                Williams wont get credit for fighting an inactive Winky if Pac doesnt get credit for beating an Oscar coming from a win against forbes and a competetive fight against floyd.
                Very wrong. Feather fist Forbes damaged Oscar face badly. Mayweather beat Oscar at 154. A weight that Oscar was number one and for a title. Oscar weighed over 160 fight night

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                • dans
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by aether
                  saying that "any top 10" welter could have beaten DLH is an absolute discredit to pac's win. he was the underdog...

                  ****. this is a win that i thought nobody would try to be as big of a *** and try to discredit it...

                  dlh having difficulties at welter has been taken into account prior to the fight. and he was still supposed to ko pac...
                  You're over reacting too much. No one here is saying Manny is ****.

                  However, I challenge you to name some top ten welters that would've lost to DLH that night? There's probably a few.

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                    #49
                    Most notable Jr WW would have beaten Oscar that night

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Addition
                      Does it matter? Oscar is clearly the bigger fighter.
                      Oscar was 6 feet under and Manny kicked the dirt over him.

                      Now who is bigger?

                      It even hurt Manny to see Oscar like that.

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