James Toney is overrated, Calzaghe would have schooled him

[BoomBoomBaby]

should you really be talking about bad fighters when you have ray boom boom mancini in your avatar?

okay now you done it mutha****a!!!! Lets take this **** to the ****ing dome !!!!! **** you

[warp1432]

Toney called out Benn and Eubank on national television. Since they are across the pond, why didn't Joe Calzaghe fight them? Joe didn't fight Benn, Collins or Watson. After he beat Eubank, he fought Robin Reid, Omar Sheika and Charles Brewer. Toney fought Mike McCallum, Michael Nunn, Iran Barkley and Roy Jones. There's no denying who fought the better opposition in their prime.

To those that call Toney overrated: I understand where you're coming from. Toney's inconsistency and weight problems are what damaged his career and the main things people **** on him for. When Toney was on, he was fucking on. I'm a sucker for hand speed, sound boxing skills and a tight defense, and who's better than a focused and in-shape James Toney? That's what made him my favorite fighter.

That's the thing, you never knew what Toney we were getting. Still a "focused and in shape James Toney" is pretty rare to find. He's flashy and I can see why he's your favorite fighter, but I'd pick Jones, Hopkins, and Calzaghe over him even when in shape.

[ILLuminato]

I think so too. Calzaghe is pretty good at being agressive and dodging counters...Jones couldn't land many right hands after that one knockdown. Calzaghe would be too active for Toney, its pretty obvious. Toney is the one who's overrated I mean who has he beat, really? His main win is a past his prime Holyfield who isn't that great of a win to being with..Toney almost lost to Jirov who isn't nearly as slick as Calzaghe...

Calzaghe would decision Toney

[MARKBNLV]

Toney is the broke mans Hopkins.

[ILLuminato]

Toney really has turned into a joke over the years. Yeah he's real good at defense but still, GREAT fighters create they own offense, instead of laying back on the ropes for 3 minutes of every round and waiting for your opponent to make one mistake so you land a clean uppercut... Which is why there's such an emphasis on punch output now instead of clean punches....because you got guys like Toney, and it kills the fight. If I'm a judge, I don't care how many different body parts Toney blocks punches with, I'm giving it to the guy who deserves it.

I know prime Toney was much better, but come on he lost to Montell Griffin and got destroyed by Roy...plus his level of opposition other than that isn't exactly legendary... Hopkins for one would've beat him easy.

[Ben_London.]

Toney really has turned into a joke over the years. Yeah he's real good at defense but still, GREAT fighters create they own offense, instead of laying back on the ropes for 3 minutes of every round and waiting for your opponent to make one mistake so you land a clean uppercut... Which is why there's such an emphasis on punch output now instead of clean punches....because you got guys like Toney, and it kills the fight. If I'm a judge, I don't care how many different body parts Toney blocks punches with, I'm giving it to the guy who deserves it.

I know prime Toney was much better, but come on he lost to Montell Griffin and got destroyed by Roy...plus his level of opposition other than that isn't exactly legendary... Hopkins for one would've beat him easy.

Good post.

[MELLY-MEL...]

yeah, ok. toney is old skool, and a great fighter. make no mistake at 68 there would be no schooling of toney by joe.

[street bully]

Lol that was a good laugh but lets get serious now.....

I had the sudden urge to **** the girl in your avatar.

[aether]

James Toney is the most overrated fighter of the past 20 years.

- He has two losses to Sam Peter, who has shown us his limitations in later fights. He lost to people like Drake Thadzi who is not a world-beater, and twice to Montel Griffin...

- Toney should have more losses on his record: he was recently given a gift against Fres Oquendo, and then there was the fight with Danny Batchelder, where he received more underserved rounds from the judges. Dave Tiberi was robbed in his fight with Toney, even James himself now admits he should have lost that one.

- James has twice been caught cheating with steroids, after the Ruiz fight and after his Batchelder bout.

James Toney was schooled by Roy Jones, and losing to Roy isn't so bad. But when we consider how easily a past prime version of Joe Calzaghe defeated a slightly more past prime version of Jones, it seems obvious to me that a prime Joe Calzaghe would have schooled a prime James Toney!

you picked the white guy. what a surprise

[Ben_London.]

you picked the white guy. what a surprise

You picked the black guy, what a surprise.