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  • #11
    I do want to see that Vitor Ortiz kid some more before i just on his band wagon, because the only thing ive seen is a string of early round blow outs. How will he respond when the fight is not going his way or he will have to get off the canvas against someone who will fight him back such as Urango or Bradley? He looks good so far, but lets not choose him over tough veteran champions until we see him in a tough fight. Hope he doesn't turn out like that Panchito Bahado kid, who was about as young as Ortiz when he first started and was wiping everyone away early, until.............

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    • #12
      Originally posted by -Boxzilla- View Post
      i dont care how old casa was, ring belt or not ... that was a solid win, and not only win stoppage something thats never been done before ... casa's one of the best boxers of the last 10 years imo..

      also vit's domination and stoppage over peter after all that inactivity was real impressive. so was hatton stopping paulie who also has never been stopped ... those are all slid wins. maybe not career defining but solid none the less ...
      Correctamundo. Some people knock JMM because of that win. It's disgusting.

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      • #13
        JMM win over Diaz impressed me more than Casa. And Vitali's win over Gomez to me is better win despite not looking as good in Peter because of more live opponent despite rankings.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
          how about juanma lopez and victor ortiz
          these are young stars I understand their wins being hyped because they are young and exciting. but ortiz isn't ranked higher than any vets yet...I think execellent performaces shouldn't be made into more than they are by making opponent seem greater than actually are and Canada Joe I think you missed the point of thread if you think this is about race.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by egreezy View Post
            I remember seeing some threads that Hatton beats Cotto because he stopped Malignaggi when Miguel didn't LOL
            haha thats what i dont like everyone has different styles and people are better agaisnt some than are not, + they might be in worse shape.

            i dont think hatton is as good as he is made out to be, pretty boy KO'd him out cotto could knock him out. but vitali he is good. chad dawson underated after tarver fight he should make b-hop retire

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            • #16
              Originally posted by egreezy View Post
              I remember seeing some threads that Hatton beats Cotto because he stopped Malignaggi when Miguel didn't LOL
              jajajaaj. That was some funny ****.

              Funny thing was, that even Malignaggi said that Cotto hited harder than Hatton. And the other thing that Mlalignaggi was OK and McGirt Threw the towel in unnesceearly.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by egreezy View Post
                People hyping over people that ranked highly in their division when they haven't really beaten anyone yet. And when after they lose ppl still hype the win because of how highly they were regarded they were at the time before the win. Recent examples Vitali over Peter loss to Toney and Chambers but ppl still hype his win because he was #2 ranked HW.Also Hatton over Malignaggi was ranked #2 but hadn't beaten Holt, Torres, Witter, Urango etc. And JMM win over Casamayor because he had the Ring title when Diaz and Campbell were better fighters in reality while he was dropped by Katsidis. Add more examples...
                Don't you still hype up eddie chambers after he clearly lost to povetkin and you make excuses on why he lost instead of giving credit for Povetkins workrate, pressure, and heart.

                I thought that was you egreezy, if its another user. I'm sorry I mistaken then.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by D3adpool View Post
                  Don't you still hype up eddie chambers after he clearly lost to povetkin and you make excuses on why he lost instead of giving credit for Povetkins workrate, pressure, and heart.

                  I thought that was you egreezy, if its another user. I'm sorry I mistaken then.
                  Nah I didn't really post anything about Chambers-Peter. I know who you're talking bout though.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by egreezy View Post
                    People hyping over people that ranked highly in their division when they haven't really beaten anyone yet. And when after they lose ppl still hype the win because of how highly they were regarded they were at the time before the win. Recent examples Vitali over Peter loss to Toney and Chambers but ppl still hype his win because he was #2 ranked HW.Also Hatton over Malignaggi was ranked #2 but hadn't beaten Holt, Torres, Witter, Urango etc. And JMM win over Casamayor because he had the Ring title when Diaz and Campbell were better fighters in reality while he was dropped by Katsidis. Add more examples...
                    and this is coming from a paul williams fan right??????

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by -Boxzilla- View Post
                      i dont care how old casa was, ring belt or not ... that was a solid win, and not only win stoppage something thats never been done before ... casa's one of the best boxers of the last 10 years imo..
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                      yes indeed anyone questioning casa's worth, only shows how long they been watching boxing.

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