Does dragging in other "unproven or proven cheaters" help Margaritos case?

[Libido Sanchez]

Dondi, part of what you are referring to is a Mexican vs. Puerto Rican thing and it's ****** because it's not even a Mex vs. PR boxing thing. It's just ignorance.

Immature posters love to throw around racist **** for cheap laughs on the internet. (People can make light of their own ethnicity, but that's not what I'm talking about right now.) Instead of people saying "Margarito" and "Cotto," immediately it's "****ing Mexicans" this and "dumb-ass Porto Ricans" that. A lot of people don't like their ethnicity insulted. The mistake I think some people make is that they react to their ethnicity being attacked by attacking back with racial hate of their own. Ignorance breeding ignorance. You don't think other ethnic groups look down on the Mexicans and Puerto Ricans who get into ****** racial flame wars?

The thing is, the words "Mexican" and "Puerto Rican" are not even bad words, it's just the tone that some people say them, you can tell that they're talking down.

If it's an issue of plaster and Puerto Rican boxing fans are angry at Mexican boxing fans for Cotto and Cintron, I can understand. But when people go pass the line and insult a whole country, then somebody is gonna say, "Hey, not so fast... Luis Resto is Puerto Rican and he also got caught with plaster." (I don't feel like getting into the Tito wrap thing right now... it's been debated to death.)

And for the people who say that it's not racial, well then maybe those are people who believe cheaters are cheaters, no matter what level you're talking about.

[dondi330]

No it doesnt, its apples and oranges.

What Marg did is way worse than what Trinidad Mosley and Vargas did. The "anonymous" latino group tries to say that there's a bias because Marg is of their "anonymous" latino group but its bull****.

I've said this many times before, his reputation is built upon a myth, the myth that he is the most feared man in boxing. It was built not on who he beat, but rather who supposedly ducked him. The hype he caught is totally ridiculous.

To this day, for the life of me I cannot understand what made some "anonymous" latinos so butt happy about Margarito.

Anonymous Co-Sign....lol

[dondi330]

Well at least most of the fans are starting to get the picture.. Texanballer disowned Marg, Perro, a die hard supporter seems to be comin around.. But I still havent seen what Mattador and Chicano79 have to say about the Justice Departments discovery.

YEAH ! WHERE THE Hell are these two bums?
They probably feel like they just received a one night stand from their favorite boxer?
I dont know which one of them called for "PROOF" More.....now that we got it...I want to hear these flamers next excuse.

[dondi330]

People are what they are.

Dondi, part of what you are referring to is a Mexican vs. Puerto Rican thing and it's ****** because it's not even a Mex vs. PR boxing thing. It's just ignorance.

Immature posters love to throw around racist **** for cheap laughs on the internet. (People can make light of their own ethnicity, but that's not what I'm talking about right now.) Instead of people saying "Margarito" and "Cotto," immediately it's "****ing Mexicans" this and "dumb-ass Porto Ricans" that. A lot of people don't like their ethnicity insulted. The mistake I think some people make is that they react to their ethnicity being attacked by attacking back with racial hate of their own. Ignorance breeding ignorance. You don't think other ethnic groups look down on the Mexicans and Puerto Ricans who get into ****** racial flame wars?

The thing is, the words "Mexican" and "Puerto Rican" are not even bad words, it's just the tone that some people say them, you can tell that they're talking down.

If it's an issue of plaster and Puerto Rican boxing fans are angry at Mexican boxing fans for Cotto and Cintron, I can understand. But when people go pass the line and insult a whole country, then somebody is gonna say, "Hey, not so fast... Luis Resto is Puerto Rican and he also got caught with plaster." (I don't feel like getting into the Tito wrap thing right now... it's been debated to death.)

And for the people who say that it's not racial, well then maybe those are people who believe cheaters are cheaters, no matter what level you're talking about.

Most of what you wrote is true, except I think you went a bit off point.
Sure I mentioned a certain latino group, but I also said "certain fans" not only the latino group.
You see the Rivalry is a good thing not a bad thing I LOVE BOXING and Love the whole rivalry. But what were talking about is how some people taking the rivalry and backing a cheater just because of his ethnic background.
I will say straight up, Resto was Puerto Rican and was busted and I as a Puerto Rican think he was a piece of crap for what he did.
Not to mention Im not dumb enough to believe it was the first time Resto cheated nor do I believe Resto knew nothing about it.
I think we should all judge fighters or people in general on the quality of their character not the color of their skin or ethnic background and with that Margarito is a piece of crap along with his trainer and those who back him.

[$partacus]

What Margarito did is one of the worst cases of cheating and he should be banned for life. But i don't agree with all this bull**** that he is automatically guilty of doing it in the past, there is no proof at the moment that he did.

[Fulcrum29]

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in the deposition after the fight margarito's trainer said that he uses the same wraps every time, and he's used them in his other fights well looky here. Above are the wraps margarito used taken as evidence, see the blood stain on lower left corner?

Now here are pics of him in his victory over cotto: [IMG]http://i18.***********.com/albums/b101/theheresy/medium_1margarito29.jpg[/IMG]

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see the same blood stain there on that wrap? That's proof that the same wraps he used in mosley's fight (correction: ATTEMPTED to use LOL) were the ones he used in the cotto fight. Thus he used plaster against cotto as well...case closed /thread

[$partacus]

[IMG]http://i18.***********.com/albums/b101/theheresy/6a00d8341c630a53ef0111685c484b970c-.jpg[/IMG]

in the deposition after the fight margarito's trainer said that he uses the same wraps every time, and he's used them in his other fights well looky here. Above are the wraps margarito used taken as evidence, see the blood stain on lower left corner?

Now here are pics of him in his victory over cotto: [IMG]http://i18.***********.com/albums/b101/theheresy/medium_1margarito29.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i18.***********.com/albums/b101/theheresy/box_a_margarito1_sw_sq_300.jpg[/IMG]

see the same blood stain there on that wrap? That's proof that the same wraps he used in mosley's fight (correction: ATTEMPTED to use LOL) were the ones he used in the cotto fight. Thus he used plaster against cotto as well...case closed /thread

That isn't proof that they are the same wraps, because both have a bloodstain? The wraps could of been used in sparring and thats where the bloodstain came from. + if his wraps were plaster v Cotto wouldn't he be a bit reluctant to take off his gloves?

[Pullcounter]

Why do certain fans (mostly a certain latino group that will remain nameless) feel by dragging in other so called cheater this somehow helps Margarito out?

Especially when most of the other so called cheaters have not been suspended or anything even proven, unlike the case with Margarito.

Now we have conspiracy theories and all types of "comparisons" to try and bring what other fighters allegedly did to what was PROVEN Margarito did.

I personally believe "MISERY LOVES COMPANY"

um... because other cheaters got away with it, why can't margo?

[Fulcrum29]

That isn't proof that they are the same wraps, because both have a bloodstain? The wraps could of been used in sparring and thats where the bloodstain came from. + if his wraps were plaster v Cotto wouldn't he be a bit reluctant to take off his gloves?

the proof is his trainer SAID they are the same wraps you dumb ****in **** learn to read ******.

[Libido Sanchez]

Most of what you wrote is true, except I think you went a bit off point.
Sure I mentioned a certain latino group, but I also said "certain fans" not only the latino group.
You see the Rivalry is a good thing not a bad thing I LOVE BOXING and Love the whole rivalry. But what were talking about is how some people taking the rivalry and backing a cheater just because of his ethnic background.
I will say straight up, Resto was Puerto Rican and was busted and I as a Puerto Rican think he was a piece of crap for what he did.
Not to mention Im not dumb enough to believe it was the first time Resto cheated nor do I believe Resto knew nothing about it.
I think we should all judge fighters or people in general on the quality of their character not the color of their skin or ethnic background and with that Margarito is a piece of crap along with his trainer and those who back him.

Hey, man, I agree the rivalry inside the ring is great, especially when it produces great results. There should be pride and mutual respect that goes with it that's why it makes me sick that Margarito and Capetillo acted in a disgraceful manner and they can **** off. All boxing fans should be mad at them. They should be banned for life.

The race thing... yeah, there's some idiots on here who blindly back a cheater just because of his ethnic background and that's ******. But some (not all) of the people on here, I suspect, do it because they simply enjoy causing trouble. They're idiots too. (Also, there might be 1 or 2 people on here who claim to be Mexican or PR and are not. It's the Internet.)

But you know the ethnic **** is always gonna be around. I'd be a liar if I didn't say I usually root for the Latino in a fight. But there's also been times when I haven't. A great boxer is a great boxer. I would support a boxer of any ethnic background and have many times.

The thing is there's no other sport like boxing. It's one thing for somebody to say that their country can kick more goals into a net than another country, but it's another thing completely when it's fighting. It's hard to separate emotions and feelings when it's about two people kicking each other's ass. Not everybody thinks the same, but I can see how ethnic "pride" comes into it. It's just when it gets ugly that I don't like.

What's really weird though is that people on here argue and insult each other, but because they do it so often, that some of them actually end up respecting or almost liking some posters because they get so used to them (plus, they have boxing in common). It's like somebody can say the craziest **** and piss people off for a while, but when they don't post it's like, "Hey, I miss him."

But, I guess that's the thing, it's boxing, it's a brutal sport. I guess the fans are gonna be brutal at times too. As long as we can drink some beers together and accept a fair victory or defeat like a man after the fight, we should be good.

Apologies for the long-ass post and thanks for listening. I'm out.