Miguel Cotto Says "Margarito Should Be Banned For Life"

[pistol whip]

IMO I think there is. I remember in the ssm vs. Marg Fight, that JIM LAMPLEY said there was a "Blood spot" on the wraps. As far as im concerned, that "blood spot" on the wraps could be of the Cotto vs Marg fight. I think cotto should object and see if the blood is his, in the other hand i agree they should have another battle but it seems it would never happen honestly .

For the fourth time in this thread there was no blood found on any of Margarito's wraps when they made the commissions test's public.

Did any of you even read that report? It was only all over these forums for a whole day straight as well as on every boxing website I could think of.

[Hiram Joel]

just giving my opinion.

[Dave Rado]

For the fourth time in this thread there was no blood found on any of Margarito's wraps when they made the commissions test's public.

Did any of you even read that report? It was only all over these forums for a whole day straight as well as on every boxing website I could think of.

The stain must have been caused by something - I don't think the test report referred to the stain at all, did it? And I don't remember reading that they tested for blood? I thought they were just testing for plaster-like substances. Not saying the stain proves anything, it doesn't; but the fact it wasn't mentioned in the report doesn't necessarily prove anything either.

[Doc Holliday]

The maximum suspension for having plaster in his wraps is life.




You're completely missing the point. My point wasn't about drugs, I was using an analogy to illustrate a principle, which was that you can be banned in sports for breaking a rule even if you get caught before the event.

you may be right about the plaster thing, but I doubt the CSAC code spells it out in those exact words. The ban would probably only come about as a de facto lifetime ban, since they could just keep denying his license.

And again, only if the plaster had been discovered after the fight, as in the Collins/Resto case. I see the point you're trying to make about the drugs, but I still don't think it holds. The pads were taken out of the wraps, so he went into the ring "clean." This is how the fight was still allowed to go on. You have to look at it from a business perspective and not get emotional about principles. If people in sports put principles before money they wouldn't have allowed the fight to go on in the first place.

And you missed the point I was making about lifetime bans in boxing, whether its because of steroids or illegal wraps. Vargas came back after steroids, Trinidad after his illegal wraps were discovered before the Hopkins fight.

[Talon]

Jesus!!!! They just did a chemical analysis on the wraps and did they ever mention blood being present????


See this is what happens when ******s look at pictures on the internet.

why would they need to mention blood? its right there in the picture for all to see and it has nothing to do with whether or not the wraps have plaster

also cotto beat mosley.. so if he would use them against mosley why not cotto?

do any of us doubt roy jones didnt use roids to get to heavyweight? look at him!

do any of use doubt mosley and toney were using long before they were caught? mosley never would have gotten caught if he wasnt snitched on right?

[Dave Rado]

you may be right about the plaster thing, but I doubt the CSAC code spells it out in those exact words. The ban would probably only come about as a de facto lifetime ban, since they could just keep denying his license.

They could, or they could extend it to a lifetime ban. Either way, I doubt very much that they'll ever give him his licence back.

And again, only if the plaster had been discovered after the fight, as in the Collins/Resto case. I see the point you're trying to make about the drugs, but I still don't think it holds. The pads were taken out of the wraps, so he went into the ring "clean." This is how the fight was still allowed to go on. You have to look at it from a business perspective and not get emotional about principles. If people in sports put principles before money...well, I'm sure you see what I'm saying.

Most sports put principles before money when it comes to cheating. Boxing rarely does, but it usually does when it comes to plaster in wraps.

And you missed the point I was making about lifetime bans in boxing, whether its because of steroids or illegal wraps. Vargas came back after steroids.

Boxing's attitude to steroids is a joke - no other sport is so lenient on drug cheats. But boxing's attitude to the use of plaster is very different.

Trinidad after his illegal wraps were discovered before the Hopkins fight.

It was never proved that Trinidad's illegal wraps would have given him an unfair advantage; or that the way his hands were wrapped had a similar effect to plaster, as Bouie Fisher alleged. Fisher's claim was never formally investigated. Which I think is unfortunate, but it's not a precedent for this case because of the fact that it wasn't ever investigated.

[dsyef]

Wouldn't you get mad if they hurt you by cheating? He could have been seriously hurt. Margarito has surely cheated manny times so he deserves to be banned for alot more time.

[Dave Rado]

why would they need to mention blood? its right there in the picture for all to see and it has nothing to do with whether or not the wraps have plaster

also cotto beat mosley.. so if he would use them against mosley why not cotto?

do any of us doubt roy jones didnt use roids to get to heavyweight? look at him!

do any of use doubt mosley and toney were using long before they were caught? mosley never would have gotten caught if he wasnt snitched on right?

You're mixing up su****ions with facts.

[jose_casadiego]

cotto is right, margarito is a delinquent

[Doc Holliday]

It was never proved that Trinidad's illegal wraps would have given him an unfair advantage; or that the way his hands were wrapped had a similar effect to plaster, as Bouie Fisher alleged. Fisher's claim was never formally investigated. Which I think is unfortunate, but it's not a precedent for this case because of the fact that it wasn't ever investigated.

Ha ha, from the man that brought up principles. Cheating is cheating, but money talks. This is why Trinidad continued to fight after getting caught, and why Margarito will too.

And as far as principles being put before money in other sports, you've got to be kidding me. There's steroids in every sport now, and when players get caught they don't get banned.