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  • Fulcrum29
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    #51
    yea i mean in the end it depends on the person, i can name a fighter of any race that has been one of the greatest at something.

    greatest defenses: pep(white), whitaker(black), duran(spanish)

    punching power: (white)dempsey/marciano, tyson/jackson/shavers/foreman(black), tua (samoan)

    greatest chins: mccall/hagler/holyfield(black), mccullough/cobb/klitschko/la motta/chuvalo (white), morales/andrade(spanish) etc etc..

    but you also have to take into account the socio-economic/environmental influences.

    for example sugar ray robinson used to dance and that's one of the reasons his footwork was so exceptional that's why after he retired he was tap dancing on broadway etc...as you saw how when apollo creed was training rocky balboa, black people have a bigger culture of rhythm and dance and as such their footwork, flow, rhythm is usually much better than the more plodding and robotic white fighters that often rely more on brute force of strength and size

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    • Welter_Skelter
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      #52
      Originally posted by Fulcrum29
      no your point doesn't stand. it doesn't matter what the percentage is, we have big differences in races that's why they are called races. (physical differences that is)
      My point being.. they are NOT big differences just because you perceive them that way..

      Science say we are 100% the same.. 100% .. statistically speaking the differences are N/A

      I used the numbers I used for esthetical purposes only.. My point still stands.. its pigmentation and environment.. that create the few differences.. we are the all the same species ..

      my point still stands

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      • Benny Leonard
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        #53
        Originally posted by Fulcrum29
        yea i mean in the end it depends on the person, i can name a fighter of any race that has been one of the greatest at something.

        greatest defenses: pep(white), whitaker(black), duran(spanish)

        punching power: (white)dempsey/marciano, tyson/jackson/shavers/foreman(black), tua (samoan)

        greatest chins: mccall/hagler/holyfield(black), mccullough/cobb/klitschko/la motta/chuvalo (white), morales/andrade(spanish) etc etc..

        but you also have to take into account the socio-economic/environmental influences.

        for example sugar ray robinson used to dance and that's one of the reasons his footwork was so exceptional that's why after he retired he was tap dancing on broadway etc...as you saw how when apollo creed was training rocky balboa, black people have a bigger culture of rhythm and dance and as such their footwork, flow, rhythm is usually much better than the more plodding and robotic white fighters that often rely more on brute force of strength and size
        What about the Russians?



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        • Chr0nic
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          #54
          even tho i dont like to catogorize peeps into races or whtever, cuz we are all humans and it's simply our environment that makes us weaker/stronger than some others
          it's obvious that blacks in africa have the advantage on most things, they would even have the bigger capacity to learn more than the average black/white guy in america

          i dont wanna type a whole essay on this so im just gonna stop and say, sunlight and adaptian

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            #55
            Originally posted by M e g a D u d e
            even tho i dont like to catogorize peeps into races or whtever, cuz we are all humans and it's simply our environment that makes us weaker/stronger than some others
            it's obvious that blacks in africa have the advantage on most things, they would even have the bigger capacity to learn more than the average black/white guy in america

            i dont wanna type a whole essay on this so im just gonna stop and say, sunlight and adaptian
            that makes no sense.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Fulcrum29
              that makes no sense.
              white people are albinos...slowly falling back into the equation that is brown/black

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                #57
                Originally posted by M e g a D u d e
                white people are albinos...slowly falling back into the equation that is brown/black
                what's that have to do with people from africa having more capacity/potential for being better at everything according to your theory?

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Fulcrum29
                  that makes no sense.
                  I think he may be saying that those that live in vast land mass that is Africa, will find themselves neighbors to a variety of different animals and because of that, their body and mind have to adapt to environment in order to survive.

                  So for instance: Africans run fast because a cheetah might eat them. And, if they are still too slow, they have to use their brain in order to not get caught or seen in the first place.
                  They also have to find a place to live that is away from such animals, like the Elephant so they don't get trampled on when asleep.



                  Human survival tools.

                  I think that is what he is trying to say.



                  I wonder if we go by this theory that if we build more schools for the youth throughout Africa, as well as building schools that are specific in Science, Math, and Medicine.........if one day HIV/AIDS will be cured from within.



                  I think we should point out that in many places throughout Africa, it is not like it is a Utopia and is very behind in the current times.
                  Last edited by Benny Leonard; 03-28-2009, 04:06 PM.

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                  • Fulcrum29
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                    I think he may be saying that those that live in vast land mass that is Africa, will find themselves neighbors to a variety of different animals and because of that, their body and mind have to adapt to environment in order to survive.

                    So for instance: Africans run fast because a cheetah might eat them. And, if they are still too slow, they have to use their brain in order to not get caught or seen in the first place.
                    They also have to find a place to live that is away from such animals, like the Elephant so they don't get trampled on when asleep.



                    Human survival tools.

                    I think that is what he is trying to say.



                    I wonder if we go by this theory that if we build more schools for the youth throughout Africa, as well as building schools that are specific in Science, Math, and Medicine.........if one day HIV/AIDS will be cured from within.
                    yea but every indigenous population has predators they have to watch out for. inuits and scandinavians run from polar bears and have to survive the cold, etc etc

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                    • Benny Leonard
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Fulcrum29
                      yea but every indigenous population has predators they have to watch out for. inuits and scandinavians run from polar bears and have to survive the cold, etc etc
                      I was going by what he was saying.

                      Overall, it is about Human survival no matter where you are at.

                      It's even the same when we look at the history of the USA. A mixed society that had to build fast in order to survive in a world that had many Adult Societies ready to consume and control it. Of course, the USA, like all humans, can decline if not put under stress to survive.
                      Last edited by Benny Leonard; 03-28-2009, 04:15 PM.

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