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850k PPV sales in the US, plus 1.4 million PPV sales in the UK = 2.25 million PPV sales overall, for the Hatton fight, which is more sales than the DLH fight got. DLH's fans were mostly American, so his fans bought US PPV. Hatton's fans were mostly in the UK and bought UK PPV. But total PPV sales were pretty much the same.
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How can you compare PPV sales for 2 fights when one fight only had ONE market open for purchase? thats ******.
What you're saying is that even if the fight was just offered in the states, it would had made just as much or more than the DLH fight. Think about that for a bit.Comment
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Get real.
Being the best doesn't just mean winning the lineal title, it means defending it against the top contenders. Several of the top contenders now are considered much better fighters than either Boldomir or Judah were, and he hasn't defended against any of them. That is a fact not a claim.Comment
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sure you can, i could right now and could've at the time find two or three other fights mayweather should've took instead of fighting DLH and baldo. but i don't think that fighting those guys were all that bad, it was the marketing and the hype, the packaging if you will, that is what really made those fights bad, that and the fight action............
if those fights were set up fights and not touted, speaking about the DLH fight, but touting the fight as the fight that is going to save boxing when actually it ran boxing into the ground. people don't like paying top dollar to watch a glorified sparring session....... the baldo fight had to happen, but again, it was a forgettable performance, so forgettable that half the crowd started leaving before the 7th round....... half of the hollywood crowd that was there sitting front row, packed up and left...........
all the while, mayweather could've either put on better shows, and stopped both guys, or at least beat them up, plain and simple he could've fought better opposition, maybe someone who would actually challenge him. even if mayweather could beat everyone he's ever faced or faces, people still want to see an exciting fight, people still want to see a struggle, a challenge, they don't want to see someone who is classes above his competition and coasts to points victory with no excitement in the fight......
too many fighters been trying to get fights with floyd, all to have been said that they ducked floyd, i doubt that, it's been abundantly clear floyd picks and chooses who he fights very carefully, throwing caution into the mix is not anything close or near to how floyd picks his opponents... all the while, when floyd was still an active fighter, everyone waited to try and land a fight with floyd, which stagnated the most exciting weight classes, because everyone was holding out for a fight with floyd, and who suffered, us the ticket paying ppv paying fan, the boxing fan took the hit the most, the guys, us, who fund this sport........... since floyds departure, better match making has taken place, fights are being made and with more frequency too........
mayweather didnt kill boxing, he just ******ed it for a short stint, now boxing is slowly making a come back.......
side note:
and sad to say, but with a slumping world economy, i think boxing is going to come back stronger and be a more revered as it was back in the 1920's and 1930's, mainly because, it's going to be a way for people to make some cash without an education and without a trade......... just like then, it was a way out of poverty or at the very least a way to put food on the table....... i think it's going to get back to that...... i hope so, but for our future sake as people, i hope not as far as the economy is concerned.........Comment
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By his logic, Blaldomir was the best WW at the time as well.
When JMM beat Casamayor for the Ring LW belt, was he automatically the best WW? Obviously not. Whats funny is reading Floyd fans say that because Floyd was the lineal champ at WW he was the best WW. But when JMM became the lineal LW champ, he needed to fight Nate Campbell to prove he was the best LW. How ridiculous is that?Comment
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I agree. He should have fought Cotto before retiring, and then no one would have had any legitimate complaints - but he didn't, unfortunately. Now if he comes out of retirement, he could really cement his ATG status by fighting Cotto and Mosley (because it's not clear which of them is the top Welter at this point).
If he fights Pac at 140, that would be great as well (but not instead of - at least one of Cotto or Mosley is more important for his legacy than Pac); but if his fans are saying he's not a natural Welterweight, then he has no excuse for fighting Pac at 147 or 144, IMO, he should fight him at 140.
Marquez doesn't have the frame or the track record to be considered a legitimate opponent above 135 at this point. Fighting him above 135 now would be okay for a tune-up fight but not for his legacy, unless Marquez beats a top 140 pounder first, and even then, the fight would have to be at 140 to be considered a legacy fight, IMO.Comment
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You're missing the point. What I'm saying is that one of the fighters is British, the British PPV sales are relevant, because that's where most of that fighter's paying fans live. If both the fighters are American, both fighters' fans live in the US, so all their fans are buying US PPV. DLH's fans all bought US PPV. Hatton's fans mostly bought UK PPV. Total sales are what matters.Comment
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