Why does Floyd get the blame for the Cotto fight never happening?

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  • Greatwhitehope
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    #171
    I wish Cotto never lost to Marg, then the fight would have to happen.

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      #172
      Originally posted by javelin_fangs
      Both deserve blame for it at different times in their career. When Floyd wanted the fight Team Cotto wanted no part of it. When Team Cotto wanted the fight Team Mayweather wanted no part of it. My guess is that the reason why people on this particular board and within the media blame Floyd is because people tend to have short memories.

      They forget that Cotto was ducking the Mayweather fight like the plague a few years ago, but remember that Mayweather turned the fight down more recently. Same goes for a Mayweather-Mosley fight. Which is weird because "I have a toothache and then I'm going on vacation after I recover" is easily the lamest excuse ever offered up for not taking a fight.
      I can except blaming both. Its was the best fight to be made at the time and we did not see. The two parties were equally passive about the situation for whatever reason.

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        #173
        Originally posted by Greatwhitehope
        I wish Cotto never lost to Marg, then the fight would have to happen.
        Maybe. It would definitely talked about as the best option besides Pac for Floyd to come back.

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          #174
          Originally posted by El Dominicano
          Lmao, while you were disgusted with Horus's post, I found it damn funny. I knew you'd respond like that.

          There is really no other way to respond. Fighters could conceivably keep knocking each other off for forever, therefore giving Floyd a free pass to not fight anybody. Sorry, but that doesn't make you the man.

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            #175
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            It appears that I am the ****ing idiot here after all.
            I don't know why but I cracked up at this.

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              #176
              Originally posted by mitruth
              I know that a lot of people may flock to the thread for the title but hear me out. My intention in not to bash Cotto because I am a fan. Though I am a fan of Floyd my intentions are not to inflate his legacy either. I have wanted to see a Mayweather vs Cotto match-up for the longest. Its the fight that made the most sense at Welter when Floyd was still active. I was disappointed when the fight never came through but have to admit that it seems to me that people look at this fight as a means to criticize both fighters. I know the whole thing about Arum not wanting to match up Floyd and Cotto at 140. I also know the whole thing about Cotto stating him and Floyd were rivals working for the same company and when the time was right the fight would happen. I just don't get why people blame either fighter for the fight not happening. Many here seem to think Floyd is "ducking" Cotto. I could understand that more if Cotto gave the impression at any point in time that he was actually pursuing Floyd. Cotto is classy and does not call too many guys out. Floyd when asked about Cotto speaks negatively about him and down plays his relevance. As a Floyd fan I have seen him do this to guys he fully intends to fight so I take it with a grain of salt. He said Ricky Hatton was a fat man that wasn't on his level before Ricky called him out. The fight ended up happening despite what he said. This case was a bit different because it seems neither really was pursuing the other. Its a shame too because that is the fight that was supposed to happen prior to Mayweather retiring. Not Margarito/Clottey/Berto or even Mosley. Those fights are can happen now but at the time the fight to make was Mayweather vs Cotto. Maybe if Cotto leaves Top Rank the deal will be sweetened and the fight will be made but in the meantime people should stop making it seem like someone ducked the other.
              Because when All is said and done Cotto wouldve loved the chance to fight Mayweather while Floyd on the other end wanted no part of Cotto deep down.

              Any fight wa sin FLoyds hands and he chose an old DLH and smaller Hatton

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                #177
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                It appears that I am the ****ing idiot here after all.
                Lol, not at all my friend, not at all.

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by mitruth
                  I can except blaming both. Its was the best fight to be made at the time and we did not see. The two parties were equally passive about the situation for whatever reason.
                  I can agree with this. It takes two to make fight happen. I just get tired of Floyds fans giving excuses in his favor. At the same time, as a Cotto fan, mayb I give him more leeway about this. But you do have to admit that Cotto i goig after the toughest fights at 147 and thusfar Floyd hasn't.

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by fightingfigs
                    Because when All is said and done Cotto wouldve loved the chance to fight Mayweather while Floyd on the other end wanted no part of Cotto deep down.

                    Any fight wa sin FLoyds hands and he chose an old DLH and smaller Hatton
                    I'm not convinced that either of them was even interested in fighting the other. People tend to speak for Cotto a lot and assume Floyd wants no parts. Its a two way street. Both guys did almost nothing to make it happen.

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by JAB5239
                      I can agree with this. It takes two to make fight happen. I just get tired of Floyds fans giving excuses in his favor. At the same time, as a Cotto fan, mayb I give him more leeway about this. But you do have to admit that Cotto i goig after the toughest fights at 147 and thusfar Floyd hasn't.
                      Cotto is a proud champion and not afraid of anyone. He has and continues to take some tough fights. I like Mayweather and Cotto and wouldn't try to bring one guy down to make the other look better. The thing is at the time Mayweather retired the tough fight that was there for him at welter was in fact Cotto. I don't make excuses for Floyd I just try to look at things realistically and try not to be too biased. If Floyd comes back and has a welterweight fight it should be whoever considered the best right now. Floyd came up to Welter at a strange time because Zab was supposed to be then man and mailed in a fight against Baldomir and lost. Floyd fought both but the wins were a bit tarnished because Zab underperformed in the previous fight. After that he hit the lottery twice and got Oscar and Hatton. The next fight should have been Cotto. IF he would have been able to beat Cotto he could say he beat the best at welter.

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