Who has a better Legacy??? Hopkins or Jones

[THE REED]

Bernard has more names on his list... but these names all had to come up to fight him.. and Tarver was weight drained.. its not an excuse, but it is a valid reason to note...

Roy didnt have as many names... but he did GO UP in weight to fight ALL of them...

Bernard has the MW title defense record.

Roy went from MW to HW and back to LHW....

Roy beat Bernard

Bernard beat two guys that knocked out Roy, at the end of his career*

its fu,ckin close guys.

[ßringer]

Winky and Pavlik... your talking about a JRMW and a MW... fighting two weight classes above what they ever fought...

You are right about Winky, but absolutely wrong about Pavlik.

Pavlik fought Hopkins at a catchweight of 170lbs, just 4 lbs north of the 166lbs catchweight limit that Kelly had beaten Taylor at in the rematch.

That's not two weightclasses. That's barely even a weightclass above his natural weight.

[STILL DETOX]

hes the greatest

former middleweight
former super middleweight
former 2 time light heavyweight
former heavyweight
champion

[Truth]

I've never bought into the "Toney was drained" ****. Whether he was, or wasn't, Roy would've beaten his ass any day of the week, regardless.

That's my favorite Roy fight.

Not only that, but its Toney's fault. Your going to the biggest fight in your career, and you decide to prepare in a ****ty way? its hard to feel bad for JT on this one....and I like james toney.

[ИATAS]

Who cares about their legacys? Jones would of beat Hopkins 10 times out of 10 in their primes. UD 117-111 everytime.

Not really sure about that. Hopkins to me in his prime was around the trinidad fight, I think that hopkins matches very well against a prime Jones. Too bad it never happened.

[IMDAZED]

Music is different then Boxing. if we compare boxing, Hopkins would be Nas in a way, because he is always on top, but not always number 1. he is always top 5. And Jones is 50 cent. Was at the top, then got knocked out(BY GAME) but is trying to resurrect his career (Sheik, Rick Ross)

but they are both ATG's, but resume to resume, are you saying Jones is better then Hopkins?

Jones would not be 50 at all...when did you start watching boxing, man? You act like Jones had a three-year run or something. He was on top for so long we all got sick of him. At or near the pound for pound list for about 10 years....that's no joke man. Hopkins is just now getting around to 175. Jones beat the best at 160-168 in about a year.

[ßringer]

We disagree but you get no argument from me, Bringer. Both Roy and Hops are a pleasure.

I love 'em both. It's just that Bernard is my hometown guy, you know?

Dude grew up a stone's throw away from my front stoop.

I consider Bernard and Roy to be boxing's version of Jack Lemon and Walter Matthau.

[Spacey1991]

Roy has seemed to achieved more (world titles in 4 weight classes), however Hopkins has had better longevity (for 44 years of age he is outstanding). Hard one to decide...

[IMDAZED]

You are right about Winky, but absolutely wrong about Pavlik.

Pavlik fought Hopkins at a catchweight of 170lbs, just 4 lbs north of the 166lbs catchweight limit that Kelly had beaten Taylor at in the rematch.

That's not two weightclasses. That's barely even a weightclass above his natural weight.

It's super middle. And Pavlik - as he showed in the Taylor rematch - is better suited for 160.

[ИATAS]

You are right about Winky, but absolutely wrong about Pavlik.

Pavlik fought Hopkins at a catchweight of 170lbs, just 4 lbs north of the 166lbs catchweight limit that Kelly had beaten Taylor at in the rematch.

That's not two weightclasses. That's barely even a weightclass above his natural weight.

Not to mention prior to losing to Hopkins pavlik was planning on moving UP in weight because 160 was "too difficult" to make