Prime Vitali Klitschko vs Prime Evander Holyfield

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  • KnockoutTheFat
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    #91
    Originally posted by TheManchine
    It was better than most I've heard.

    I believe the Valuev-Holyfield fight came down to this:

    1) Both threw very few punches
    2) Holyfield landed a couple of them

    That was about it.
    Haha yeah if this wasn't a Sauerland production Holy could've gotten the decision by landing 3 power shots a round to Valuev's 2 jabs a round (and I may be over exaggerating the 2 landed jabs)

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    • hinduw2
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      #92
      the klitcko sisters r chinnleass hypejob.

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      • F l i c k e r
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        #93
        In their Prime, Evander Holyfield wins. The man was just too strong, had better speed than Vitali, could take a punch, and knew how to foul.

        It doesn't matter how big you are. If Holyfield headbutted you then your screwed for the rest of the night. If he gave you the groin shot, then your done in the middle of the fight.

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        • warp1432
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          #94
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson
          The highly respected reporter Graham Houston had Valuev winning. No european media cried robbery. Those cries primarily came from US based trade websites not present at the venue.
          But still had eyes to watch on television. What part of "Anyone who had Valuev winning lost respect" did you not read? Anyone who scores that fight for Valuev is a JOKE.

          You still had Holyfield up by 1 point...ON TV! That's terrible scoring. If anything, you have a better view on TV because you could see from a better angle the clean punches landing. Even then, the judges who are right at ringside have a good view of the fight and there is just simply not a case you can make for Valuev. He does not land clean punches at all.

          Let's look at his bull**** report:
          Here’s what I was seeing, rightly or wrongly. I was seeing Valuev moving in slowly but looking like the man who wanted to engage. Holyfield was moving smoothly around the ring, this way and that, impressively athletic for a fighter of his age.

          I saw Valuev plugging away with left jabs, initially mainly to the body. Excuse me, but I thought a jab was still a scoring punch? I saw Holyfield fighting — that is actually throwing punches — for very brief moments in each round after the third. He landed some nice shots, and there isn’t any doubt that, overall, he connected with a greater number of eye-catching punches than did the huge Russian.

          Valuev, though, was pegging away with the left jab. So, as I was seeing it, a judge had a problem because a case could be made for either man winning in a number of these rounds.
          This bolded is wrong as hell because Valuev was NOT landing that jab and if he did it was rarely. He was also being outlanded by Holyfield's CLEAN shots. Emphasize in clean.

          It's not about the TV commentary in this fight. I could go ROUND BY ROUND since the judges scores are out there and explain what they did wrong, but it wouldn't change your opinion because "The experts at ringside had Valuev winning and highly boxing regarded writer Graham Houston had Valuev winning"

          You know what's really funny about this statement? HOUSTON WASN'T AT RINGSIDE! He was watching on TV like the good majority. What he wasn't paying attention to was Holyfield's clean shots, even though he outlanded Valuev in them. "Regarded" Graham Houston even says so himself:

          He landed some nice shots, and there isn’t any doubt that, overall, he connected with a greater number of eye-catching punches than did the huge Russian.
          He takes in no regard for clean punches, just the "aggressive jabbing" (who still rarely threw anything) Valuev. To make his opinion even more "respected" he says this:

          Not many heavyweights in the ring today would have an easy night with Holyfield.
          Don't get me wrong, Holyfield clearly beat Valuev, but I'd pick the majority of the heavyweights and everyone in the top 10 minus Valuev to beat Holyfield. Holyfield clearly lost to Sultan Ibragimov about 2 years ago. He's nowhere near his former self and yet this "respected" writer says that Holyfield would give most problems.

          Please.

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