Just watched DLH vs Floyd Jr and PAC against DLH

[strugler]

Why do you comment on things you have no clue about? The reason Oscar was at WW for awhile was because of his high protein low carb diet. He was lacking his number source of energy basically and was totally weight drained even Oscar has admitted to it.

Would you have considered Eubank weight drained against Calzaghe because he did KILL himself to make 168? He entered a 2 week weight draining regime because he was planning to fight at 175 for a title.

Nacho and dundee doesnt seem to agree with you.

[andrewcuff]

Why do you comment on things you have no clue about? The reason Oscar was at WW for awhile was because of his high protein low carb diet. He was lacking his number one source of energy basically and was totally weight drained even Oscar has admitted to it.

Would you have considered Eubank weight drained against Calzaghe because he did KILL himself to make 168? He entered a 2 week weight draining regime because he was planning to fight at 175 for a title.

Like the previous poster said, established trainers disagree with you. Oscar was fine in training, didn't show any signs of being drained then.

And example of being weight drained would be Toney vs Jones Jr, James had to lose 40lbs in 6 weeks to make the weight. That is killing yourself to make the weight, that is not what Oscar had to do.

[Rich Loc]

Like the previous poster said, established trainers disagree with you. Oscar was fine in training, didn't show any signs of being drained then.

And example of being weight drained would be Toney vs Jones Jr, James had to lose 40lbs in 6 weeks to make the weight. That is killing yourself to make the weight, that is not what Oscar had to do.

Most trainers like who, Roach

Oscar has admitted he was weight drained, he even wrote an article on it. The number sign of weight drained is when you can’t throw a punch when you want to. Oscar described that feeling fighting Pacman.

[andrewcuff]

Most trainers like who, Roach

Oscar has admitted he was weight drained, he even wrote an article on it. The number sign of weight drained is when you can’t throw a punch when you want to. Oscar described that feeling fighting Pacman.

Umm, no.

[Rich Loc]

"I won't take anything away from what Pacquiao accomplished, but when you're feeling like a zombie walking through the tunnel going to fight, and you can't throw a punch -- when you see an opening and can't throw a punch in there

De La Hoya says he still has fighters and friends telling him that reaching the 147-pound weight limit in the Pacquiao fight zapped him of his typical strength and crisp punches.One of those is Shane Mosley,

Established fighters disagree with you

[QUISQUEYA]

Oscar was 20 lbs lighter in the ring than he was for his Cinco de Mayo fight with Mayweather. Oscar was as light in the ring as he had been in TWELVE years.

That alone should tell you that he made some bad weight decisions. 35 year olds don't drop THAT much weight without adverse effects.

No excuses. Pac beat the man they put in front of him. But that wasn't a solid version of Oscar. During the fight, the commentators were saying that the Diaz fight was more competitive for Pac. What does that tell you?

[strugler]

De La Hoya says he still has fighters and friends telling him that reaching the 147-pound weight limit in the Pacquiao fight zapped him of his typical strength and crisp punches.One of those is Shane Mosley,

Established fighters disagree with you

His all star trainers disagree with you. He even disagrees with you prior to the fight(HBO 24/7)

[andrewcuff]

De La Hoya says he still has fighters and friends telling him that reaching the 147-pound weight limit in the Pacquiao fight zapped him of his typical strength and crisp punches.One of those is Shane Mosley,

Established fighters disagree with you

Oscar refused to talk about the loss for 3 months, then he comes forward and says that he's weight drained and you automatically accept his every word as pure truth. Eh?

His trainer said he looked good in training and was down to the limit for weeks. In my book, that is more important than Mosley's opinion. His trainer was with him right throughout the camp and didn't see any damaging effects. Therefore, he was not weight drained. He might have been overtrained, but that is a different matter.

If you don't like Pacquiao because you're a Mayweather fan, that's fine, but stop coming up with bull**** excuses to criticise everything Pacquiao achieves in the sport.

[Rich Loc]

Oscar refused to talk about the loss for 3 months, then he comes forward and says that he's weight drained and you automatically accept his every word as pure truth. Eh?

His trainer said he looked good in training and was down to the limit for weeks. In my book, that is more important than Mosley's opinion. His trainer was with him right throughout the camp and didn't see any damaging effects. Therefore, he was not weight drained. He might have been overtrained, but that is a different matter.

If you don't like Pacquiao because you're a Mayweather fan, that's fine, but stop coming up with bull**** excuses to criticise everything Pacquiao achieves in the sport.

Wasn’t it truth Oscar was actually beaten up in sparring matches? The black eye he got, can’t remember from wh. Forbes bruised up Oscar at 150, and Forbes is feather fisted.

Mosley wasn’t there with him during the whole tour.?? Mosley and Oscar are pretty much *** buddies

[Rich Loc]

Oscar was 20 lbs lighter in the ring than he was for his Cinco de Mayo fight with Mayweather. Oscar was as light in the ring as he had been in TWELVE years.

That alone should tell you that he made some bad weight decisions. 35 year olds don't drop THAT much weight without adverse effects.

No excuses. Pac beat the man they put in front of him. But that wasn't a solid version of Oscar. During the fight, the commentators were saying that the Diaz fight was more competitive for Pac. What does that tell you?

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