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  • Pullcounter
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    #231
    Originally posted by BOOMbip
    pERCEPTION IS REALITY...
    sure, but evidence is empirical.

    IF ENOUGH PEOPLE PERCIEVE HIM TO BE A CHEATER...WHICH IS A FACT...
    it is fact that margo tried to cheat against mosley. there is no evidence that he cheated in any other fight.

    THEN THE CONCLUDED BY SIMPLE DEDUCTION...
    wrong! deductive logic is proving something by moving from the general to the specific.

    what you are doing is jumping to conclusions.

    HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE CHEATED ON THE BIGGEST STAGE OF HIS LIFE IF HE CHEATED AGAINST ON WHAT MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT WAS A SPENT FIGHTER...
    that's speculation, conjecture, a guess, etc... not proof nor evidence. just because margo cheated once against mosley, doesn't necessarily mean that he cheated in all his fights. sure, its su****ious, i agree, but being suspected of doing something doesn't mean that you did something.

    YOU CAN PRETEND THIS WAS A COURT HEARING ALL YOU WANT...IN REALITY IT'S A FORUM WHERE A VAST MAJORTIY OF PEOPLE ARE ALL READY CONVINCED MARGARITO CHEATED THROUGH OUT THE LATER PART OF HIS CAREER...
    margo is suspected of cheating through out the later part of his career. the only people that are convinced of that are biased.

    AT LEAST THIS IS HOW HE IS NOW PERVIEVED...THUS MAKING IT HIS REALITY MY REALITY AND YOURS.
    sure, he's suspected of cheating against cotto, but that doesn't mean that he did.

    I REALLY DON'T CARE EITHER WAY I ALREADY COMMENTED THAT I REALLY DON'T HAVE AN OPINION ON THE MATTER...AND THE ONLY WAY TO SETTLE IT IS WITH A REMATCH...WHICH IS GOOD FOR BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT...I JUST LIKE ARGUING.
    that's cool, but there is no proof that margo cheated against cotto.

    A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE FEEL THE SAME WAY FROM WHAT I CAN SEE ON THIS THREAD.
    because they are biased or easily swayed by flimsy arguments and no evidence.

    I THINK THATS A PRETTY GOOD COMPROMISE...AGREE TO DISAGREE AND WAIT FOR THE REMATCH.
    yep wait for the rematch, because there is no proof margo cheated against cotto

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    • rizkybizness
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      #232
      Originally posted by Derranged
      See if you can guess who Im imitating:

      "Jajajajajaajajaja!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! I have proof that Margarito did cheaded, COTTO will win him in rematched!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Meh, its not a very good one..
      lmfaoooooo


      that's Ch@mpBox@PR

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      • chinoy
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        #233
        Im a fan of both Cotto and Margo but the plaster thing made me doubt Margo's win over Cotto

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        • dondi330
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          #234
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          sure, but evidence is empirical.


          it is fact that margo tried to cheat against mosley. there is no evidence that he cheated in any other fight.


          wrong! deductive logic is proving something by moving from the general to the specific.

          what you are doing is jumping to conclusions.


          that's speculation, conjecture, a guess, etc... not proof nor evidence. just because margo cheated once against mosley, doesn't necessarily mean that he cheated in all his fights. sure, its su****ious, i agree, but being suspected of doing something doesn't mean that you did something.


          margo is suspected of cheating through out the later part of his career. the only people that are convinced of that are biased.


          sure, he's suspected of cheating against cotto, but that doesn't mean that he did.


          that's cool, but there is no proof that margo cheated against cotto.


          because they are biased or easily swayed by flimsy arguments and no evidence.


          yep wait for the rematch, because there is no proof margo cheated against cotto
          You just don't get it do you?
          evidence?
          proof?
          shadow of a doubt?
          spare me ..this is no court
          its really simple, a court is a court so everything you say would be great for that, but fact is you are in a site where opinions RULE, especially popular opinion.
          It does not matter how much rhetoric you spout, you simple need to check all the polls and you will see that you are the minority in what you believe.
          Even on the main page the poll "How do you feel about the suspension of Antonio Margarito?"
          The polls are almost tied that Majority believe he should have had a longer suspension or that they were right in suspending him.
          He is a proven cheater and was busted before a fight that was not even considered his hardest fight, so why would he not cheat on the harder fights?

          Also if your sucking Margarito off so well, then you would trust his word, and his word is he did not know that his trainer put the hardened substance in his wraps.
          If he did not know in the Mosley fight, what makes you believe he knew what his trainer placed in his gloves during the other fights?...lol

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            #235
            Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
            If Margarito felt the need to cheat against the man who Cotto beat.. Then it's likely he he felt the need to cheat against Cotto as well..

            Not having proof is not the same as being NOT GUILTY ... Nor does it imply Guilt..

            Everything Marg has done is now in doubt.. he has only himself to blame..
            This gives Cotto Fans hope... which REALLY upsets the Marg fans. who's man has very little hope..
            I think this post is basically right on the money.

            Great Post

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            • Puya
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              #236
              Originally posted by El Dominicano
              While I agree with the threadstarter...all the Margarito cheated has to stop (While I believe Margarito may have cheated against Cotto) it means nothing, it isn't proven, all we got is that he got caught trying to cheat.

              Everything will be solved in the rematch, we'll then see who the better fighter is.

              I have to agree with the bold statement

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              • Pullcounter
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                #237
                Originally posted by dondi330
                You just don't get it do you?
                evidence?
                proof?
                shadow of a doubt?
                spare me ..this is no court
                its really simple, a court is a court so everything you say would be great for that, but fact is you are in a site where opinions RULE, especially popular opinion.
                It does not matter how much rhetoric you spout, you simple need to check all the polls and you will see that you are the minority in what you believe.
                Even on the main page the poll "How do you feel about the suspension of Antonio Margarito?"
                The polls are almost tied that Majority believe he should have had a longer suspension or that they were right in suspending him.
                He is a proven cheater and was busted before a fight that was not even considered his hardest fight, so why would he not cheat on the harder fights?
                just because most people think something is true doesn't make it true. it was once public opinion that the world was flat. the truth is it's round.

                you fail.

                Also if your sucking Margarito off so well, then you would trust his word, and his word is he did not know that his trainer put the hardened substance in his wraps.
                If he did not know in the Mosley fight, what makes you believe he knew what his trainer placed in his gloves during the other fights?...lol
                idiot, i'm not even a margo fan, but margo is innocent until proven guilty when it comes to cheating against cotto.

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                • dondi330
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                  #238
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  just because most people think something is true doesn't make it true. it was once public opinion that the world was flat. the truth is it's round.

                  you fail.



                  idiot, i'm not even a margo fan, but margo is innocent until proven guilty when it comes to cheating against cotto.
                  You fail for missing the whole point.
                  Its 2009 and no one is discussing the world being flat or comparing it to an opinion...lol
                  You still on Guilty and not guilty....yes your honor...lol

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                  • dondi330
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                    #239
                    Proof that ignorance is truly bliss! (pullcounter)

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                    Originally Posted by dondi330 View Post

                    You just don't get it do you?
                    evidence?
                    proof?
                    shadow of a doubt?
                    spare me ..this is no court
                    its really simple, a court is a court so everything you say would be great for that, but fact is you are in a site where opinions RULE, especially popular opinion.
                    It does not matter how much rhetoric you spout, you simple need to check all the polls and you will see that you are the minority in what you believe.
                    Even on the main page the poll "How do you feel about the suspension of Antonio Margarito?"
                    The polls are almost tied that Majority believe he should have had a longer suspension or that they were right in suspending him.
                    He is a proven cheater and was busted before a fight that was not even considered his hardest fight, so why would he not cheat on the harder fights?


                    just because most people think something is true doesn't make it true. it was once public opinion that the world was flat. the truth is it's round.

                    you fail.


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                    Also if your sucking Margarito off so well, then you would trust his word, and his word is he did not know that his trainer put the hardened substance in his wraps.
                    If he did not know in the Mosley fight, what makes you believe he knew what his trainer placed in his gloves during the other fights?...lol

                    idiot, i'm not even a margo fan, but margo is innocent until proven guilty when it comes to cheating against cotto.
                    .....Is this guy for real or what?
                    Last edited by dondi330; 03-21-2009, 09:13 PM.

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by dondi330
                      You fail for missing the whole point.
                      Its 2009 and no one is discussing the world being flat or comparing it to an opinion...lol
                      You still on Guilty and not guilty....yes your honor...lol
                      you missed the point.

                      just because the majority of people think something is true doesn't mean its true.

                      also, you still have no evidence that margo cheated against cotto.

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