Floyd Mayweather Jr - Four Possible Opponents in 09

[Dave Rado]

Why does everyone has to be biased because we dont agree with your post? This is only his 2nd training camp w/Mayweather. Its just natural to resort to what u know best and that would be what he was taught by Graham.

You can disagree with me without being biased. But you can't say that Cortez refereed that fight well without either being biased or lacking in knowledge, IMO - and you're clearly very knowledgeable. That was the bit I said I thought was biased, not the bit about the trainer.

But regarding the trainer, if he learns Floyd Snr's lessons well enough to be able to beat Pac, which is a massive if, then I don't think there's any chance he'd just forget them all in his next fight, especially as he has said repeatedly that he knows his game plan was terrible in that fight.

[handler000]

im not the one that said it go back and look i just stated what the other guy said

Ok whatever u say..Im bored with u. U r just too knowledgable for me!!!

[BoriKua305]

Ok whatever u say..Im bored with u. U r just too knowledgable for me!!!

and your 2 dumb

[GRUSTLER]

I see what your saying......

IMO there is a question mark over all the leading Welters until one of them steps up and fights Williams. He's fighting at three weights simultaneously because he couldn't get a fight with any of the leading Welters. He's made it clear over and over again, as recently as this week, that he'll fight at 147 as soon as he can get a meaningful fight at the weight.

Williams called out Mosley only three weeks ago, but Mosley said in a TV interview that he doesn't want to fight him "because he's too big".

He tried to make a fight with Marg this year and Marg was offered a guarantee of $4 million to fight him, but chose to fight Mosley for $2.3 million instead.

He tried to get a fight with Clottey late last year, but HBO and Arum killed it between them, even though Clottey wanted the fight.

Why Williams? Simply because most people consider that to be the riskiest fight he could make at Welter, and therefore it would have the biggest effect on his ATG ranking.

but to me, I feel Paul Williams is too big to compete at 147. I think he is a good, tough, hungry fighter but he should be fighting guys his size or bigger. Floyd is 5'8" & Williams is like six feet 2"? That's a huge difference to anyone at Welter with exception to Cintron and Margarito and even them guys over shadow, Cotto, Mosley, Berto. BUT with that said, Quintana did serve Williams the first fight & Mosley beat Margarito so I guess anything can happen in the ring. I think it's fair to take into consideration that Floyd is a lil guy and never comes in the ring over the 147 pound limit so that means he is just reaching Welter. I say if Floyd comes back & serves up JMM, Pacquiao & Mosley then people should get off his back. To be honest I think that will be the list for him.

[Dave Rado]

but to me, I feel Paul Williams is too big to compete at 147. I think he is a good, tough, hungry fighter but he should be fighting guys his size or bigger. Floyd is 5'8" & Williams is like six feet 2"? That's a huge difference to anyone at Welter with exception to Cintron and Margarito and even them guys over shadow, Cotto, Mosley, Berto. BUT with that said, Quintana did serve Williams the first fight & Mosley beat Margarito so I guess anything can happen in the ring. I think it's fair to take into consideration that Floyd is a lil guy and never comes in the ring over the 147 pound limit so that means he is just reaching Welter. I say if Floyd comes back & serves up JMM, Pacquiao & Mosley then people should get off his back. To be honest I think that will be the list for him.

If he fights any top Welter, and Mosley is currently #1, so he's the obvious one currently, he'll get a lot more respect from most neutrals.

But to say Williams shouldn't fight at a weight class he can make because of his height is ridiculous, IMO. It's a weight class, not a height class. He's the same height as Hearns was, and boxrec ranks Hearns as the second greatest Welterweight of all time, behind only Jose Napoles.

And if Mayweather could beat Williams despite the hieght disadvantage, he'd get massive respect from most neutrals.

[Boxeo_Boricua]

hes fighting Clottey because HBO tuened down Cotto-Cintron. look im a Rican and a big Cotto fan, but he was trying to fight 3 cupcakes in the last 4 fights. Mayweather has done nothing but fight the best, and when he comes back hes gonna fight the best once again. I dont think my boy Cotto gets past Clottey anyways...

Jajajajaja, you are just too funny! Bold #1: seguro que si, lo que tu digas and bold#2: At 147: Mitchel, Judah, Baldomir, De la Hoya, Hatton. You call that the best at 147 when there were names at that time like: Williams, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Clottey, Quintana, maybe even Kermit! Come on man!

[Nesty]

Something tells me thaty when the fight is announced.... reals fans will be dissapointed. But as time goes and millions of dollars are spent hyping it.... we will dishout the $$ for the PPV.

I would not mind seeing Maywether in a competitive boubt... but with him there is always and edge... either to small, to old, to inexperience. I bet he is salivating for the winner of Pacman and Hatton. To great fighters of wish he holds an edge on speed and size.... that's his kind of fight. But if he were to signed a fight with Mosley - which looked spectacualr againd Plasterito but it will be another song and dance against a yonger and sharper fighter - or against Cotto/P Williams then I will get excited and give him the credit. But it ain't going to happen, he is looking for Pac/Hatton/JM Marquez/ODH as opponents....

[GRUSTLER]

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But to say Williams shouldn't fight at a weight class he can make because of his height is ridiculous, IMO. It's a weight class, not a height class. He's the same height as Hearns was, and boxrec ranks Hearns as the second greatest Welterweight of all time, behind only Jose Napoles.

Ok, so if this is your point then how come Floyd wouldn't be considered great if he challenged and beat the #2 P4P in the world Juan Manuel Marquez at a catch weight? Or Manny Pacquiao?

Why does he have to fight Cotto/Mosley to be considered the
best? If Marquez and Floyd can make the weight then what's the problem? I see that there is a definite double standard in Boxing and amongst the fans.

[GRUSTLER]

Jajajajaja, you are just too funny! Bold #1: seguro que si, lo que tu digas and bold#2: At 147: Mitchel, Judah, Baldomir, De la Hoya, Hatton. You call that the best at 147 when there were names at that time like: Williams, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, Clottey, Quintana, maybe even Kermit! Come on man!

Floyd didn't fight Oscar De La Hoya at 147, he fought him at 154 for the JR Middle Weight title. Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Quintana, Cintron haven't done that. If Floyd fights and beats Mosley at 147 then that supersedes that rest because Mosley actually held titles at higher weight classes and is more accomplished then they are.

[Dave Rado]

Ok, so if this is your point then how come Floyd wouldn't be considered great if he challenged and beat the #2 P4P in the world Juan Manuel Marquez at a catch weight? Or Manny Pacquiao?

Why does he have to fight Cotto/Mosley to be considered the
best? If Marquez and Floyd can make the weight then what's the problem? I see that there is a definite double standard in Boxing and amongst the fans.

If Floyd fights Pac at 140 (not catchweight), he'd get a lot of respect from me. But 140 is probably Pac's highest peak weight, so Floyd would get less respect if it were at catchweight.

JMM already looks small at Lightweight, nothing to do with height, he just looks like he's managing to beat naturally bigger men because he's so skilled, at Lightweight. So unless Floyd could get down to 135 I don't think beating JMM would do anything for his legacy.