What's your overall thought on Oscar De La Hoya?

[Mr. Fantastic]

You can. Deep inside you know its really much much more worse,what Oscar did.It was the worst decision of his career and he will be remembered as a "big guy" quitting against a "little guy" you can make excuses chicano but fact is It was Oscar's mistake and his legacy will suffer greatly because of it.
Is it fair? I dont know hes given a lot to boxing too, so lets see what he makes out of the rest of his boxing career.

He quit against a little guy but to us boxing fans, we know Oscar hasn't fought at that weight in years. This is no way an excuse for that good Pac win, but I'm just saying. It was a mistake, but I'm not going to forget all those years prior to that. If you're a hater, that's probably the only thing he will remember apart from his losses.

[strugler]

He quit against a little guy but to us boxing fans, we know Oscar hasn't fought at that weight in years. This is no way an excuse for that good Pac win, but I'm just saying. It was a mistake, but I'm not going to forget all those years prior to that. If you're a hater, that's probably the only thing he will remember apart from his losses.

Pac never fought at the welerweight division ever.
naaaaah, you know im not.Ill be a hater though if he keeps doing ***** moves like that,No one can deny what he accomplished when he was younger.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Pac never fought at the welerweight division ever.
naaaaah, you know im not.Ill be a hater though if he keeps doing ***** moves like that,No one can deny what he accomplished when he was younger.

You don't think I thought it was a ***** move by him fighting Pac?? I was pissed off dude. No boxer is perfect though.

[strugler]

You don't think I thought it was a ***** move by him fighting Pac?? I was pissed off dude. No boxer is perfect though.

No use denying it wont affect his legacy though.He made a huge horrible mistake,(from start to finish, accepting the fight, hiring nacho and dundee, predictions of ko, Ending the "Mexecutioning" promotion, and the finale quitting). That wont be easily forgotten. Some people still remember Duran for the "no mas" incident more than anything.

[street bully]

Oscar is no where near ATG status I don't even consider him as a extremely good fighter. It is arguable that he lost to every non shot elite fighter he ever faced, and that includes an old slower Whitaker on *******. Oscar IMO is overrated as a fighter, but he is a very gifted promoter.

[Libido Sanchez]

I've never met Oscar de la Hoya and I've never read his book. It's easy to see the dude had amazing skills and was blessed with some natural talent. But I think most of his ring failures had to do with whatever was going on in his head.

The media spotlight at such a young age from the Olympics on, made him very popular right out the gate, but I also believe it made him think of himself as a product as well as a fighter (it makes sense he started a promotion company). Of course, it's great that he's made money for himself and his family, and didn't get ripped off like countless others, but taking big (dangerous) fights and actually performing to your greatest ability are two different things.

I think the fame and the glamour has always been the stronger appeal for Oscar, but he's not dumb. He knew he had to be at the top of his game to step into a boxing ring. And, again, he wouldn't have made it this far if he didn't have skills.

I know there was a time when I thought Oscar was trying to protect his "matinee idol" looks because he ended up taking time to go make a crappy album (plus, he actually has a good chin, so it seems like he could have battled more). But then again, he had skills to block a lot of punches with his hands and arms rather than his face. But it always made me wonder if protecting his looks was something he thought about (of course, every fighter is gonna want to protect himself at all times, but that's not what I mean... what I mean is if he took less chances in the ring so as not to screw up his face too bad).

I won't even get into the whole fishnet thing (mainly because I don't know what the hell that was about and wearing women's lingerie doesn't automatically mean you can't fight, no ****).

For me, it became apparent that Oscar has been thinking of the end of his career more so like a fairytale than an actual boxing career. Instead of concentrating on the actual fight with Pac, I think he was too busy thinking about all the storylines and how history would record his way out. Yeah, Nacho has experience against Pac/Freddy, but I think DLH picked him because Nacho is a legend in Mexico and DLH has always wanted love from the Mexican fans. He also had Dundee around for historical significance.

I also think Oscar listened to the critics too much and the talk about him bullying a smaller man might have gotten to him. My theory is he didn't bulk up for the night of the fight because he wanted to be on "even" grounds with Pac in terms of weight so nobody could criticize him for being 12 pounds heavier. "The Golden Boy" was trying to look good and he paid the price.

Regardless of how his career ended up, Oscar de la Hoya will always be a great ambassador for the sport. I think it's great that he's a successful business man and admire him for looking out for fellow boxers like Hopkins and Mosley.

And to recap my long-ass lecture, I think (again) that DLH had some great skills.

[dondi330]

If he isn't an ATG, neither is Tito.

As for the thread, yes he is an ATG, just cause he lost some big fights, people judge him for that.


Name me a 5-6 division champ that isn't an ATG??

No this is not a Mexican -Puerto Rican thing or an ethnic thing like you ALWAYS make it.Once again you turn this into a racial issue. Your a loser. As for Trinidad being an all time great, if you want to know create a thread and Ill address it, this thread is about Hoya.