News and Notes: Mayweather Jr., Kirkland, Bey Brothers

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Well said Grustler...
I think JMM is more relevant at 135 than Pac. Not taking anything away from Pac I just think JMM has built a better rep at that weight class. Beating Juan Diaz and Casamayor just added to a solid record.. AND BY KO! I don't see how JMM is too small for Floyd... He is an inch shorter and has a solid frame.. He also is the same height as Hatton and has more reach than Ricky did (not sayin it would help). Besides Floyd started at feather.. All I know is that the reason why Floyd beat a guy will never be because he is too BIG for him. He doesn't fight BIG and he definately doesn't throw his weight around in there. When he wins it'll be because he is simply on a different level than any opponent. You can't hit the guy and while trying you get countered to death. He trains the hardest (and thats well documented). And he has the best thrown-landed ratio in the business... He's too much

That's what I'm saying. These guys want to call me a cheer leader for stating the facts. I understand that they want to see their favorite fighter Cotto get beat up next but the fact of the matter is that Cotto is not in any position to even demand a fight from Floyd. If anything Mosley has more to talk about than Cotto. I would have love to see Floyd fight Cotto before Margarito when he was at his best, as a fan I would definitely watched it but Cotto loses. He couldn't even beat Margarito, who everyone else has at 147 besides Cintron & Clottey but Clottey still held it down injured? Cotto went in the ring with another fighter on his brain fighting a pressure monster like Margarito? Shows he had NO technical strategy whatsoever, how can you expect him to beat Floyd? Because he's a big puncher? So was a lot of guys against Floyd but that meant nothing. Cotto should keep fighting at 147 & try to unify.

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it says enough about pbf 4 responding 2 marquez as quick as he did 4 hatton, but when golden boy tried 2 get him and mosley 2 fight..his ADVISER said "floyds retired". and that was it. floyd dont come back if its not a credible ww.

dud its it so obvious that your boxing knowledge close to 0..... y does he have to come pack to fight a "credible WW" if he can come back and fight the #2(or number 1-depends on how you look at it) fighter in the world, as a tune up? If floyd didnt have good management, he wouldnt be where he is today.... just stay in your lane, and dont comment on subjects that you dont know **** about

Why are you laughing at him? You ain't going to see any of his money so what the **** do you care about it or that he is so 'serious' about it.

What's with Mayweather's supposed 'boxing' fans being so obsessed about his money? Do they actually think they are going to see some of it? Or does it give them some kind of weird sense of pride that he makes more than other fighters. Man, they're the ones that are giving him more of their money than anyone else. You guys should be more pissed than everyone, and yet you like it? You see it as a good talking point and have some weird sense of pride in it?

The point is that floyd may do things that you dont agree with, but the reward is something that noone would mind having.... so therefore you shouldnt knock him for doing it.....

Floyd went to the wwe........ thats a show, its acting.... no one says anything about james toney or roy jones for being in movies.....so y is it a problem for floyd to act for 20000000 dollars?

Whats wrong with ballroom dancing? nothing.....

its not about the money dude.... its the principle..... the guy he was talking to called floyd a joke...... nothing is funny about making money.... period

Really? Is that right? You know that as a fact do you?

Explain to us all then why he would be coming out to fight Marquez? Marquez is a half decent payday, but he is not even close to a Mayweather payday, so what the hell are you talking about?

Marquez won't bring him much money and he never said anything about Mayweather at all. The only thing he said is "I want to fight Mayweather because Pac won't fight me" He praised him by saying that he is the real P4P 1 and not Pac. How is that saying anything like "I'm better than Mayweather"?

You're laughing at everyone else thinking they have their minds mixed up when it is actually you who are mixed up. He would be very lucky to get 10 million for Marqeuz, and I seriously doubt that he would get close to that even. If he cares so much about money and people saying they're better than him he would just come out and fight Hatton again.

Hatton is always saying he thinks he is better than Mayweather and that he just made a mistake last time and Hatton would give him more money than anyone else in boxing today, even Oscar. You .....are ......wrong.

Floyd vs. Marquez= Top 3 p4p+tune up= smart decision.........
based on what you are saying, u would be a poor manager..... and furthermore, floyd is only proving that it isnt about the money 100% of the time... sometimes, u have to take opportunities as they come...

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For the Cotto fans & Floyd Haters.......

Once you take Cotto's punch away from him then he can be beat. Margarito took his body punch & pressure away then savagely beat him. Mosley took his best punches and gave Cotto a tough 12 round fight. It took Cotto 11 rounds of ****ing on Zab Judah to put him down. Floyd Mayweather Jr is too tough and disciplined for Miguel Cotto. Cotto is always there to be hit & PBF is so accurate & fast he would make Cotto pay every time he threw a punch. You so called boxing fans talk straight out of yall asses. I know for a fact that any boxer right now would love to be in PBF's shoes getting big $ & able to retire at 31 & be str8t for life & can still come back & whip some ass for 20MIL. You guys think it is about power NO, it's about smarts & PBF got lots of that & Cotto folded under pressure & showed he has NO heart in adversity. PBF fought with a broken hand & kept going then gave the guy that almost beat him an immediate rematch. GET REAL.

NO Plaster or any illegal substance was found before or after the Cotto/Margarito fight so everything is just speculation right now. Cotto's uncle said that he didn't find anything illegal when Margarito got his hands wrapped but who knows? All I know is the way Cotto fought Margarito With/Out Plaster, Cotto still loses. Clearly Cotto came to the ring with a different fighter on his mind because no other fighter at 147 has fought Margarito as blindly as Miguel Cotto. Cotto is good but NOT great. Cotto fans need to stop with the excuses about his loss to Margarito because NO substance was found during that fight & on top of that, the way Cotto fought Margarito, he will always beat Cotto. Cotto is a big puncher who is aggressive, Margarito is a big puncher who is aggressive, Margarito's power & pressure trumped Cotto's. Cotto has no real technical boxing skill to beat a stronger fighter. If Cotto can't hurt you then he is yours for the taking & Margarito took him.

Miguel Cotto defense is too holey to go against a slick counter puncher like Floyd Mayweather Jr. How can Cotto deal with the best technical boxer on the planet today & couldn't even utilize his better skill & beat the one dimensional Antonio Margarito? Cotto is a good puncher but that's all we can really say about him. Mosley gave Cotto a tough time & he isn't half as fast, defensive or accurate as Mayweather. I see Floyd doing Cotto like Ndou/Gatti. Cotto's corner would throw in the towel.

[mellow_mood]

i dont care about any measurement... jmm has never fought above 135 and should not be considered a good opponent for floyd.

THIS.




Mad respect pull.....

[Deja_Vous]

Your right JOTTO is a world beater. He proves it everytime he fights one of those EURO tomatoe cans.. Anybody Floyd has ever fought can beat Jennings.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So true.

[Deja_Vous]

Once you take Cotto's punch away from him then he can be beat. Margarito took his body punch & pressure away then savagely beat him. Mosley took his best punches and gave Cotto a tough 12 round fight. It took Cotto 11 rounds of ****ing on Zab Judah to put him down. Floyd Mayweather Jr is too tough and disciplined for Miguel Cotto. Cotto is always there to be hit & PBF is so accurate & fast he would make Cotto pay every time he threw a punch. You so called boxing fans talk straight out of yall asses. I know for a fact that any boxer right now would love to be in PBF's shoes getting big $ & able to retire at 31 & be str8t for life & can still come back & whip some ass for 20MIL. You guys think it is about power NO, it's about smarts & PBF got lots of that & Cotto folded under pressure & showed he has NO heart in adversity. PBF fought with a broken hand & kept going then gave the guy that almost beat him an immediate rematch. GET REAL.

NO Plaster or any illegal substance was found before or after the Cotto/Margarito fight so everything is just speculation right now. Cotto's uncle said that he didn't find anything illegal when Margarito got his hands wrapped but who knows? All I know is the way Cotto fought Margarito With/Out Plaster, Cotto still loses. Clearly Cotto came to the ring with a different fighter on his mind because no other fighter at 147 has fought Margarito as blindly as Miguel Cotto. Cotto is good but NOT great. Cotto fans need to stop with the excuses about his loss to Margarito because NO substance was found during that fight & on top of that, the way Cotto fought Margarito, he will always beat Cotto. Cotto is a big puncher who is aggressive, Margarito is a big puncher who is aggressive, Margarito's power & pressure trumped Cotto's. Cotto has no real technical boxing skill to beat a stronger fighter. If Cotto can't hurt you then he is yours for the taking & Margarito took him.

Miguel Cotto defense is too holey to go against a slick counter puncher like Floyd Mayweather Jr. How can Cotto deal with the best technical boxer on the planet today & couldn't even utilize his better skill & beat the one dimensional Antonio Margarito? Cotto is a good puncher but that's all we can really say about him. Mosley gave Cotto a tough time & he isn't half as fast, defensive or accurate as Mayweather. I see Floyd doing Cotto like Ndou/Gatti. Cotto's corner would throw in the towel.

Cotto likes to fall-in and has NO DEFENSE for uppercuts or right hands.

A Shane right hand had Cotto HULA-DANCING in the 10th...Benji Esteves dove right-in to stop the action.

The NY crowd boo'd like a mofo...even they could see that was BS.

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[QUOTE=FalconBalla2;4921051]...Interesting

Now he's a joke?.. LMFAO.

Every boxer in the world envies is position and wants to fight him to take his spot yet he apparently is a joke.

Mayweather is alot of things... but a joke is not one of them. He is a business man and he is dead serious about money.. say what you want about WWE or Dancing With The Stars but the fact is he made more money in any one of those single events than you will in your entire lifetime multiplied by 5. LMAO. hater.

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Well, let him make all the money he likes in the WWE and ballroom dancing because he don't belong in boxing. He's scared. If he decides to return this year, its because Margarito is suspended. He's scared...he ain't got no heart. But for right at this very moment, HE IS RETIRED and still a scary PUNK!

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Cotto likes to fall-in and has NO DEFENSE for uppercuts or right hands.

A Shane right hand had Cotto HULA-DANCING in the 10th...Benji Esteves dove right-in to stop the action.

The NY crowd boo'd like a mofo...even they could see that was BS.

I remember when the ref saved Cotto's ass. Then later on the pro Cotto crowd was screaming "MOSLEY". I refuse to Cosign Miguel Cotto as the Big threat to PBF at 147 because I just don't see it. To me, Cotto is a more polished Juan Urango when he is offensive but defensive he is less than terrible and not a good technical thinker against adversity and Antonio Margarito exposed him as a very limited resourceful boxer when he can't hurt you. I do enjoy watching him fight because he is entertaining & I always know he will get touched up.

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I remember when the ref saved Cotto's ass. Then later on the pro Cotto crowd was screaming "MOSLEY". I refuse to Cosign Miguel Cotto as the Big threat to PBF at 147 because I just don't see it. To me, Cotto is a more polished Juan Urango when he is offensive but defensive he is less than terrible and not a good technical thinker against adversity and Antonio Margarito exposed him as a very limited resourceful boxer when he can't hurt you. I do enjoy watching him fight because he is entertaining & I always know he will get touched up.

GREAT assessment of Cotto's skills.

[supremelygifted]

Floydcant hurt shane. U have no idea how he would do against those other wws cuz he won't fight them. And zab is a b level fighter. Everyone you mentioned including zab has shown more heart in the ring and in their opponent selection than floyd

You're a total idiot. You undoubtedly have never laced up the gloves and boxed in a real match. I NEVER said he could hurt Shane. You don't always have to hurt someone to beat them. Second. It does not matter if he NEVER fights another welterweight again. Floyd is NOT a true welterweight due to his natural size and not his ability. Until you have the heart to step in the ring and box competitively you are not really qualified to question a FIGHTER'S heart. Finally, the next time you decide to reply to something I said and use my quote, maybe you should get hooked on phonics and read what I said first. It does not matter if Zab is a B level or A level fighter. His hand speed is what I was referring to. In the end, just because you have no idea how he would do against the welterweights I mentioned doesn't mean everyone else is as clueless as you appear to be.