News and Notes: Mayweather Jr., Kirkland, Bey Brothers

[p4p-champ]

Your boys a PUNK! That is why he used the excuse of retirement. He couldn't take the heat of the WW division. He punked out. And every other boxer is still fighting. What is ur excuse for him?

Nobody can say for sure why he retired, but I really don't think he retired because he was afraid or avoiding the top welter weights. Some say he got bored with boxing, wasn't motivated. Maybe he needed a break from it all to rest. Its been known for a while that his hands are a little frail. I believe i saw Hatton once say that Mayweather wasn't really retired, he was just resting his hands. I think Bob Arum once claimed that Mayweather has long had a bum shoulder from blocking too many shots with his shoulder roll....what the truth really is, nobody will ever know but Mayweather himself.

[GRUSTLER]

Whoa!
I specifically remember Cotto ADMITTING to not being ready for Floyd & Hatton...that was a long time ago.
This ain't about the past, so come out of it already amigo!

I think JMM IS AN AWESOME fighter!........But I'm saying Floyd once again is fighting someone he's 100% SURE of beating.

Blind?
I'm not being blind cause of any hate. I don't even HATE mayweather. I'm a HUGE fan of the welter weight division. And right now we should be calling for the BEST FIGHTS! You call JMM vs Floyd the best fight?!?!?!?!

We don't know what the best fight will be until it happens. JMM is good & so
is Floyd. Floyd would be the betting favorite but that would also be the case with Cotto. I'm saying that people are quick to discredit this fight before it happens. How do we know that Miguel Cotto will be his toughest fight? Cotto got exposed by Antonio Margarito, a fighter with limited boxing skill and Cotto was clearly better than him and he still lost. What makes Cotto the toughest challenge for Floyd? I just don't see it. If Cotto wasn't ready for Floyd back then, what makes him so ready for him now? Cotto has improved but so has Floyd, so if Floyd was ahead of Cotto back then, then how is Cotto so much of a threat to him now? How come Cotto isn't P4P #1 or #2? That's my whole point.

[GRUSTLER]

That's my whole point.

Grustler, do u really think floyd has better comp at 147 than cotto? It's not close. Stop writing so much, you get all excited and start spewing crap like mr all talk no walk mayfeather. If money really was a fighter he would have a resume like shane. Shane fights certified badasses in their primes at their weights. Gayweather runs from those guys. at least cotto does the same.

I think floyd beats cotto too, but I don't know for sure cuz he is so scared to fight threats. He is probably waiting to see the effect of the fight withargarito.

You say that Shane has fought bad asses but when Floyd wanted Shane YEARS ago, Shane didn't want it. Zab was Unified Champ, Baldomir beat him & Floyd beat them both to become the recognize Welter Weight Lineal Champ at 147, am I making this up? The toughest guys Cotto fought at 147 was Mosley and Margarito and he lost the fight with Margarito. Who else has Cotto really fought at 147 that was credible? Zab? Quintana? He fought GOMEZ and JENNINGS!!!!!!!!!! Baldomir tops both of them. In actuality the toughest fights for Cotto was Margarito (Which he lost) & Mosley which he got a decision. They both share Zab Judah. Will see what he does with Clottey.

[Walt Liquor]

He would beat Pacman but Paul Williams and maybe even Shane Mosely. Mosley is pretty quick and has more power than Zab Judah whom I felt was his quickest opponent. But Pacman,Cotto and even Clottey would not be that hard for him.

Floydcant hurt shane. U have no idea how he would do against those other wws cuz he won't fight them. And zab is a b level fighter. Everyone you mentioned including zab has shown more heart in the ring and in their opponent selection than floyd

[GRUSTLER]

Exactly

So Floyd should build his comeback around Jotto because now Jotto's fans think he is ready for Floyd? Jotto is not ready mentally its just his fans believe he is..

Where's Miguel Cotto at on the top P4P list? The truth is Miguel Cotto had his moment before he hit the brick wall that was Antonio Margarito. He is most likely still shaking them Cob webs off & YOU guys want to throw him to the wolves already. I like Miguel Cotto because he seems like a good person outside the ring but inside the ring he just doesn't convince me that he is that great. I think if he was, by now he would have been P4P#1 and not Manny or even #2 not Marquez.

Fact of the matter is that he is not even higher than Mosley on the list. If
Cotto would have beat Margarito I would have definitely been convinced of his greatness but watching him in that fight only confirmed what I knew and that he is good but not great because if he was he would have made Margarito look like an idiot like Paul Williams & Shane Mosley did. Even Clottey held his own with a broken hand and went the distance. And please don't bring up the plaster excuse because he may or may not have but bottom line is, Cotto fought the wrong fight. I refused to try to be persuaded to believe Floyd is scared of this guy NO WAY. OVER & OUT.

[GRUSTLER]

Floydcant hurt shane. U have no idea how he would do against those other wws cuz he won't fight them. And zab is a b level fighter. Everyone you mentioned including zab has shown more heart in the ring and in their opponent selection than floyd

The only reason why Shane Mosley was so impressive against Antonio Margarito was because Margarito was always there to be hit and that's what Mosley said after the fight. He knew where Margarito was going to be at all times. Look what happened when he fought Cotto. Cotto used his youth & some boxing skills on Mosley and pulled away with a close decision. Cotto actually out countered Mosley. Now as Boxing fans we all know that Mosley cannot be KO'd by anyone so just because Floyd wouldn't be able to hurt or KO him doesn't matter but Floyd would surely be too quick & defensive for Shane who throws all his weight into his punches and misses at times. Your right, No one knows who will beat who but if the fights by some chance happen I'm betting on Floyd all day.

[Pullcounter]

The only reason why Shane Mosley was so impressive against Antonio Margarito was because Margarito was always there to be hit and that's what Mosley said after the fight. He knew where Margarito was going to be at all times. Look what happened when he fought Cotto. Cotto used his youth & some boxing skills on Mosley and pulled away with a close decision. Cotto actually out countered Mosley. Now as Boxing fans we all know that Mosley cannot be KO'd by anyone so just because Floyd wouldn't be able to hurt or KO him doesn't matter but Floyd would surely be too quick & defensive for Shane who throws all his weight into his punches and misses at times. Your right, No one knows who will beat who but if the fights by some chance happen I'm betting on Floyd all day.

I think floyd would have to be the slight favorite over the too, especially with him coming out of retirement, it would be a razor thin betting edge.

[handler000]

Grustler, do u really think floyd has better comp at 147 than cotto? It's not close. Stop writing so much, you get all excited and start spewing crap like mr all talk no walk mayfeather. If money really was a fighter he would have a resume like shane. Shane fights certified badasses in their primes at their weights. Gayweather runs from those guys. at least cotto does the same.

I think floyd beats cotto too, but I don't know for sure cuz he is so scared to fight threats. He is probably waiting to see the effect of the fight withargarito.

Who has Jotto fought in their prime? Margs and we saw what happen when he fights some1 in their prime..

[anonymousboxing]

We don't know what the best fight will be until it happens.

How can you be so uncertain of what the best FIGHT is, and be so certain of WHO the best FIGHTER is when the BEST FIGHTS HAVE YET TO HAPPEN?

JMM is good & so is Floyd. Floyd would be the betting favorite but that would also be the case with Cotto. I'm saying that people are quick to discredit this fight before it happens.

HE*# YEA I'M DISCREDITING THIS FIGHT!!!!
JMM HAD ONE FIGHT STEPPING UP AT 135, HE SHOULD EARN HIS FIGHT AGAINST FLOYD!!!!!!!
BY PROVING HE CAN FIGHT EVEN HEAVIER

How do we know that Miguel Cotto will be his toughest fight?
Cotto got exposed by Antonio Margarito, a fighter with limited boxing skill and Cotto was clearly better than him and he still lost. What makes Cotto the toughest challenge for Floyd? I just don't see it. If Cotto wasn't ready for Floyd back then, what makes him so ready for him now? Cotto has improved but so has Floyd, so if Floyd was ahead of Cotto back then, then how is Cotto so much of a threat to him now? How come Cotto isn't P4P #1 or #2? That's my whole point.

Don't see Cotto as a challenge?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

You're right about one thing.....YOU JUST DON'T SEE IT.
Talking about ME being blind?!?!

By your logic Cotto should be P4P #1 in order for him to be considered a challenge to Floyd?

Do you even know what pound for pound means?
Cause even the most skilled boxer would be ko'd by someone heavier than him.

Not to say Pac/Floyd can't happen.
Saying JMM is used to fighting in the 120's!!!!!!!
As skilled as he is, IT'S A SAFE FIGHT FOR FLOYD TO TAKE


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