WILD CARD best gym in the world??

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that really bugged me as well..

Freddie loves the attention.

And I'm glad it wasn't just me that was pissed about that.

I know Mike isn't the greatest human being to ever walk the Earth, and he's made a lot of mistakes, but damn, enough is enough.

I'm tired of seeing everybody **** on the man when he's down.

And to do so when you say you consider him a friend?

That's low.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

The KRONK in 1984....unreal sparring, training, fighters, etc etc...atmosphere, etc etc...I dont know if any gym ever in the world could match that place in that era...

[Left Hook Tua]

Freddie loves the attention.

And I'm glad it wasn't just me that was pissed about that.

I know Mike isn't the greatest human being to ever walk the Earth, and he's made a lot of mistakes, but damn, enough is enough.

I'm tired of seeing everybody **** on the man when he's down.

And to do so when you say you consider him a friend?

That's low.

who doesn't love attention?

everyone wants to be recognized in their own fields.

whether it's in a sport or work. in this case both.

[Left Hook Tua]

The thing that pissed me off about Roach most recently had nothing to do with Ricky or Oscar. It was the way he went public with Mike Tyson's personal business.

If you don't want to give Mike a job, fine, don't give Mike a job.

But don't turn around and tell everybody in the world about it.

I'm sure Mike already felt like **** as it is, even having to ask for the job.

i heard about that.

was it roach that aired it out though?

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i heard about that.

was it roach that aired it out though?

Yes, it was Roach. The article about it is probably still on one of the first 15 pages.

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who doesn't love attention?

everyone wants to be recognized in their own fields.

whether it's in a sport or work. in this case both.

What? It had nothing to do with recognition or respect. It went like this.....

Iron Mike : Freddie, I hate to do this, but I'm in financial ruin.....Can you please give me a job at your gym, possibly as a trainer?

Freddie : Gee....Sorry Mike, I think we're booked. I just hired that lazy **** Michael Moorer as a trainer, you know, the one who needed Teddy Atlas to basically verbally **** him infront of the world before he'd get off his ass to capture the Heavyweight title?

Iron Mike : Oh.....I see. Well, listen.....Please don't tell anybody about this, okay? I don't want people to know even more about my personal life than they already do, y'know?

Freddie : Absolutely. You know you're my friend Mike, and I respect you. I would never do something like that to you.......

Iron Mike : Thanks for trying, Freddie....

**Phone hangs up**

**Numbers are heard being dialed**

Freddie : Yeah, this is Freddie Roach. Mike Tyson is completely bankrupt and hard up for money, he just reached out to me for a job and I shot the poor bastard right down. Let's go public with this, it'll draw more attention to me and Manny.....

[Porter's Dad]

The KRONK in 1984....unreal sparring, training, fighters, etc etc...atmosphere, etc etc...I dont know if any gym ever in the world could match that place in that era...

Hey Iceman, could you elaborate further?

I'm reading "Four Kings" and seeing as I've read books on Duran, SRL and Hagler before, it's the stuff on Hearns, Steward and the Kronk system which is gripping me the most right now.

I'd love to hear a first-hand account.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Hey Iceman, could you elaborate further?

I'm reading "Four Kings" and seeing as I've read books on Duran, SRL and Hagler before, it's the stuff on Hearns, Steward and the Kronk system which is gripping me the most right now.

I'd love to hear a first-hand account.

I didnt train there but I was around during that time in boxing and I knew a lot of guys from there...fought a few over the years... the list of top amateurs and pros is ENDLESS man...insane gym...in the 1980's you had HEARNS, McCRORY, McCALLUM, Ricky Womack, David Braxton, Stevie MCCrory, Roderick Moore, Duane Thomas, Hilmer Kenty, Kady King, Caveman Lee, Mickey Goodwin, Frank Tate, Stanly Longstreet, Arthel Lawhorne, DuJuan Johnson, Lindell Holmes, Alvin Hayes, etc etc etc ETC ETC

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Freddie loves the attention.

And I'm glad it wasn't just me that was pissed about that.

I know Mike isn't the greatest human being to ever walk the Earth, and he's made a lot of mistakes, but damn, enough is enough.

I'm tired of seeing everybody **** on the man when he's down.

And to do so when you say you consider him a friend?

That's low.

i'm pretty sure some journalist asked roach why mike stopped by... roach wouldnt go out of his way to say something like that about tyson

[street bully]

Any non biased individual can appreciate Naazim's brilliance.

Without a doubt.