If Joe Calzaghe is an ALL TIME great then you can crown Paul Spadafora one also!!!

[S A M U R A I]

Jesus christ, how can you still argue about this... Haha!

Let me say like this as a fan. If he comes back, beats Chad Dawson, he's 100 % an all time great, everyone with me on that?

If he doesn't, I'll go to the scorecards.

Nah, no way man. If he came back and bitchslapped Dawson all over the ring the goon squad would claim Dawson was untested, overhyped, or both. Then Calzaghe would have to prove himself against someone else, whoever is the next big thing, Maybe it'd be Abraham. Previously it was Lacy and Kessler. Those guys were supposed to be knocking him out. Oh, and Pavlik until Hopkins popped that hype bubble, then all of a sudden nobody gives a **** about Joe fighting Kelly anymore.

It goes round in circles. No matter what Calzaghe does, the goons will find a way to talk ****. They just don't like him because apparently he slaps and has no power. It seems they only saw the version of JC with ****ty broken hands, so that's what they base their assessment on.



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[S A M U R A I]

calzaghe is an amatuer boxer, fact, when he was in his prime, he was the dirtiest fighter ever, only in england/wales would they let you hold someones head down through out the whole fight, now(that he has brittle hands from bad punching form) all he does is touch you more than you touch him while blinding you with flurries

im being serious, and im no hater of any fighter

OK, so tell us, who's head did he hold down for an entire fight? I'm interested to know, because I have seen every Calzaghe fight barring maybe one or two earlier ones.



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[Ryn0]

I really hate that style of so called punching. It shouldn't be counted in my opinion, Collazo was tryin to do the same **** against Berto. The line has be drawn somewhere

But you see where i'm coming from, against someone like Hopkins it was sort of necassary. And it's arm punching he very rarely hits with the open part of the glove but he still does it sometimes.

It has to be counted as they are still getting hit as unpleasent to eye as it may seem. Seriously though, I believe Joe slaps becuase his hands are soo screwed, and it's become habit, you cannot be as effective slapping against normal opponents arm punching as you can using techincally correct punching

[S A M U R A I]

But you see where i'm coming from, against someone like Hopkins it was sort of necassary. And it's arm punching he very rarely hits with the open part of the glove but he still does it sometimes.

It has to be counted as they are still getting hit as unpleasent to eye as it may seem. Seriously though, I believe Joe slaps becuase his hands are soo screwed, and it's become habit, you cannot be as effective slapping against normal opponents arm punching as you can using techincally correct punching

That's exactly what it is. It's gotten much worse over the recent years but the hand injuries go back to age 13 or 14. Apparently, back then, he was told by a doctor he should never be able to fight again. At only age 14! FFS, some people need to cut the dude some slack. I'd like to see them break their strongest hand then go fight anyone, never mind 46 professional boxers and remain undefeated doing it. Sure his style doesn't suit everyone, but he gets credit from me for even being able to adapt and keep winning.



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[Sam D. Menace]

That's exactly what it is. It's gotten much worse over the recent years but the hand injuries go back to age 13 or 14. Apparently, back then, he was told by a doctor he should never be able to fight again. At only age 14! FFS, some people need to cut the dude some slack. I'd like to see them break their strongest hand then go fight anyone, never mind 46 professional boxers and remain undefeated doing it. Sure his style doesn't suit everyone, but he gets credit from me for even being able to adapt and keep winning.

any proof? or did joe tell you that on your date with him?

[Ryn0]

any proof? or did joe tell you that on your date with him?

It's true though, Joe has hand problems several times postponed big paydays, broken his left hand in the middle of a fight and fought with his right hand the entire fight.

If you break your hand because of punching and it so happens that your job is punching other people in the face then chances are your going to be in alot of pain punching the same way your broke your hands, no?

[Sam D. Menace]

It's true though, Joe has hand problems several times postponed big paydays, broken his left hand in the middle of a fight and fought with his right hand the entire fight.

If you break your hand because of punching and it so happens that your job is punching other people in the face then chances are your going to be in alot of pain punching the same way your broke your hands, no?

i know he has hand problems, i wanna know where it says at 14 a doctor told him he would never be able to fight again because of his hands, seems like total bull****

[Ryn0]

i know he has hand problems, i wanna know where it says at 14 a doctor told him he would never be able to fight again because of his hands, seems like total bull****

It might have been his autobiography or that documentry on him on youtube when he was an amateur.

[number6]

Yet another lame Calzaghe hate thread, the worrying thing is that some morons on this site actually believe that Joe was garbage and doesnt have a legit win.

[El Dominicano]

But you see where i'm coming from, against someone like Hopkins it was sort of necassary. And it's arm punching he very rarely hits with the open part of the glove but he still does it sometimes.

It has to be counted as they are still getting hit as unpleasent to eye as it may seem. Seriously though, I believe Joe slaps becuase his hands are soo screwed, and it's become habit, you cannot be as effective slapping against normal opponents arm punching as you can using techincally correct punching

Well Collazo adpated the new trend, in all honesty, I ain't trying to be an *******. We'll just agree to disagree, I fear that one day everyone will start using that style of punching

Almost like Karate, you land 1 hit and thats a point, you get seperated and same **** over and over.