Douglas doesn't get nearly enough credit for the Tyson victory

[ßringer]

Typically, when I see people discussing Tyson/Douglas, the outcome is generally credited to Tyson's lack of focus, lack of training, and the fact that he was ****ing Asian bitches like they were gongs.

And while all of that may be true, I think people really need to give James some damn credit for that victory.

Douglas trained his damn ass off for that fight, he had to. Nobody on the planet believed he could do it, as the odds so clearly showed. And with the recent death of his mother, and James dedicating his performance against Tyson to her memory (before the fight even got underway), I just think he was a man possessed on that particular night.

He would not be denied that night. He went right into the mouth of the lion and showed absolutely no fear whatsoever. He put in the best performance of his entire career when he absolutely had to. He fought toe to toe with Tyson, took his best shots, dished out his own, even got dropped and showed serious heart climbing off the canvas and coming back to KO Mike.

I'm not saying Douglas was an amazingly talented fighter, or anything of that nature. But on that particular night in Tokyo, with his back against the wall and how personal that fight was for him, I think James would've given even a prime Tyson all he could handle.

Thoughts?

[larryx]

it was a combination of tyson's lack of focus and douglass's determination..the stars and the planets all alined that magical day...thats the definition of a once in a life time performance

[ßringer]

it was a combination of tyson's lack of focus and douglass's determination..the stars and the planets all alined that magical day...thats the definition of a once in a life time performance

That's what I'm getting at. Surely Tyson's lack of focus, training, and sexual activities were a contributing factor to his loss.

But damnit Douglas put in some serious work on his own end, and he deserves a little bit of credit for it.

[MANGLER]

If anything I think the man gets too much cred for that win. People talk about that fight like Tyson was fightin the best fight of his career and Douglas just laughed at him. The fact that he won decisively and KO'd Tyson seems to make cats forget that Mike was just walkin around the ring throwin 25 arm punches per rd. Not Douglas' fault of course, and hell yea he coulda beaten many top fighters that night, but due to the odds and the historical significance of the victory I see many blow it outta proportion.

[rizkybizness]

Question.

What do you consider Tyson's prime, Bringer?

[ßringer]

Question.

What do you consider Tyson's prime, Bringer?

'85 - '89. I consider Mike as one of those "young peakers", the guys who peak very early in their careers and tank off before you know it. Fernando Vargas is another one of those guys.

Though the early 90's version of Tyson wasn't bad either, just, not the same.

[ßringer]

If anything I think the man gets too much cred for that win. People talk about that fight like Tyson was fightin the best fight of his career and Douglas just laughed at him. The fact that he won decisively and KO'd Tyson seems to make cats forget that Mike was just walkin around the ring throwin 25 arm punches per rd. Not Douglas' fault of course, and hell yea he coulda beaten many top fighters that night, but due to the odds and the historical significance of the victory I see many blow it outta proportion.

I'm not saying Tyson was Tyson that night in Tokyo, he clearly wasn't. But nearly everytime the fight is discussed, I always see a million people point that out (which is fine), and nobody points out the determination and focus that James had that night.

That's what I'm trying to get at.

And I've never seen anybody blow it out of proportion, if anything, Douglas never won that fight, Tyson just lost it.

[Fenom]

with all that said Buster lost... long count in the 8th.... and im FROM Columbus so im not a hater

[larryx]

with all that said Buster lost... long count in the 8th.... and im FROM Columbus so im not a hater

yea he was down loner than 10 seconds..but tyson shouldnt even been in the position to lose that fight

[Miburo]

Probably because he reverted to a bum immediately afterward. That heart he showed sure wasn't there against Holyfield.