Was Larry Holmes a boring fighter ?

**larryx** · 03-10-2009, 07:24 PM

he was a technical fighter and they are usually called boring cause they dont block punches with their face...but to answer your question-no

**P4P GOAT** · 03-10-2009, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by larryx

he was a technical fighter and they are usually called boring cause they dont block punches with their face...but to answer your question-no

Floyd Mayweather/Whitaker are more entertaining to me than Holmes.

**street bully** · 03-10-2009, 07:28 PM

Hell no watching a Holmes fight was like watching a skilled plastic surgeon use all his tools to re-assemble a clients face. His fights were a thing of beauty.

Ray* · 03-10-2009, 07:28 PM

In a way yes, The thing is people or fans dont like their HW just jabbing...thats one of the reason people never warmed to lennox lewis, Its like they hide behind the jab until when their opponent tires out in the mid-round onwards.

**-MAKAVELLI-** · 03-10-2009, 07:28 PM

as a big fan of lethal jabs, i would have to say no

**P4P GOAT** · 03-10-2009, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by raycorey

In a way yes, The thing is people or fans dont like their HW just jabbing...thats one of the reason people never warmed to lennox lewis, Its like they hide behind the jab until when their opponent tires out in the mid-round onwards.

Yeah true dat.

That is the way all Holmes/ Lewis fights seemed to start. Except of coarse, when Lenny blitzed Golota. Funny thing is Manny Steward tried to get Lewis to be more aggressive like the only Lenny, and he got hurt and stunned against Briggs

**P4P GOAT** · 03-10-2009, 07:34 PM

An interesting post i found on Holmes

Gerry Cooney came along at the right time.

Boxing was looking for a Heavyweight superstar to catch the imagination because Holmes, on the whole, hadn't. He had the unfortunate (and impossible) burden of following the enigma that was Ali, and he just couldn't fill the void.

Holmes was outspoken for starters, and his bitterness only served to alienate him further from the audience with whom he clamoured so much for his "due". He had zero of Ali's charisma and flair and was seen as boring and not that talented for the longest time by a demanding public.

Cooney was (big point here too)white, and he was also exciting and totally destructive at that time. He was a massive puncher, and massive punchers inspire fear and awe. He was like a breath of fresh air right at that time in a division crying out for a champion they could love, or at least get excited over. Cooney had a real story behind him too.

Why do i ramble all this? Because a lot of this added up to Holmes being immensely underrated, both by the public and the experts. Cooney, by the same token, partly due to the excitement he caused and public yearning was in retrospect somewhat overrated tho certainly a fine fine challenger.

Looking back it is incredible just how many experts took Cooney. But as i say he had caused some real havoc vs bad to good opposition and it was the [i]way[i] he was knocking people over too.

I'll see if i can find some predictions in a day or so, i have a mag here somewhere with heaps of em.

Big Book of Boxing read this fight like a book, and predicted as if they had a crystal ball.

I was very raw to boxing, and watched this fight live on free tv. As long as the undercard including Page - Berbick, Gomez - Lopez (i think it was)

Holmes showed that tho he could never replace Ali he was a worth heir apparent in the ring, where his sterling skills finally began to be fully appreciated.

**street bully** · 03-10-2009, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by P4P GOAT

An interesting post i found on Holmes

Gerry Cooney came along at the right time.

Boxing was looking for a Heavyweight superstar to catch the imagination because Holmes, on the whole, hadn't. He had the unfortunate (and impossible) burden of following the enigma that was Ali, and he just couldn't fill the void.

Holmes was outspoken for starters, and his bitterness only served to alienate him further from the audience with whom he clamoured so much for his "due". He had zero of Ali's charisma and flair and was seen as boring and not that talented for the longest time by a demanding public.

Cooney was (big point here too)white, and he was also exciting and totally destructive at that time. He was a massive puncher, and massive punchers inspire fear and awe. He was like a breath of fresh air right at that time in a division crying out for a champion they could love, or at least get excited over. Cooney had a real story behind him too.

Why do i ramble all this? Because a lot of this added up to Holmes being immensely underrated, both by the public and the experts. Cooney, by the same token, partly due to the excitement he caused and public yearning was in retrospect somewhat overrated tho certainly a fine fine challenger.

Looking back it is incredible just how many experts took Cooney. But as i say he had caused some real havoc vs bad to good opposition and it was the [i]way[i] he was knocking people over too.

I'll see if i can find some predictions in a day or so, i have a mag here somewhere with heaps of em.

Big Book of Boxing read this fight like a book, and predicted as if they had a crystal ball.

I was very raw to boxing, and watched this fight live on free tv. As long as the undercard including Page - Berbick, Gomez - Lopez (i think it was)

Holmes showed that tho he could never replace Ali he was a worth heir apparent in the ring, where his sterling skills finally began to be fully appreciated.

Obviously...Holmes was living in Ali's shadow, but he is a top 5 all time heavyweight in my book.

**larryx** · 03-10-2009, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by P4P GOAT

Yeah true dat.

That is the way all Holmes/ Lewis fights seemed to start. Except of coarse, when Lenny blitzed Golota. Funny thing is Manny Steward tried to get Lewis to be more aggressive like the only Lenny, and he got hurt and stunned against Briggs

no shame in that..briggs can punch

Was Larry Holmes a boring fighter ?