Why can't people remember this when scoring fights.....

[My Name Is...]

People sometimes get carried away looking at punchstats too without considering the fights are scored by rounds and the total is usually meaningless. Using an extreme example say that in a 10 round fight, boxer 'A' lands 5 punches per round which equals 50 total. Boxer 'B' doesn't land a single punch for the first 9 rounds but then goes off and lands 100 in the final round which means he outlanded fighter 'A' by double. Fighter 'B' clearly loses the fight despite the higher punch output.

Thank You.....

And the Compubox stats are a little off also.... I have actually counted punches in a round and compubox has been way off...

[-Antonio-]

It usually works out though doesn't it? I mean dumb judges aside.

[MANGLER]

Good thread. Agree wit pretty much everything in here.

[My Name Is...]

Hatton Collazo is a good example of this. Collazo kicked his ass in rounds 5, 6, 7, and 12, but didn't win enough of the overall rounds. I think round 2 is the only round besides those above where I thought he won it.

But yet people still go on and talk **** and say Hatton lost.... How?? He won more Rounds....


Like Taylor vs Chavez.....

Chavez was giving more of a beating, but Taylor was out boxing and clearly winning rounds..... To me this is a perfect example of what I am talking about...

[-Antonio-]

Hatton Collazo is a good example of this. Collazo kicked his ass in rounds 5, 6, 7, and 12, but didn't win enough of the overall rounds. I think round 2 is the only round besides those above where I thought he won it.

That fight shows another flaw, flash knockdowns. Collazo was off balance and pretty much tripped from an average punch, and he lost the fight because of it.

[Slater P Persin]

That if one Guy literally kicks the **** out of one dude in one round (unless of course a knockdown or 10-8 round without a KD.. although VERY rare)..... And the next round the guy BARELY wins the round......

They Count Just The Same

Some people say "He kicked his ass, had him hurt more and still lost???"

Yes because EVERY ROUND COUNTS THE SAME!!!!!!

I cant stand that crap.....

Anyone feel the same????

Well, In my opinion. If a guy **** kicks the other guy in round 8 and then round 9 is close it should go to the guy who was kicking ass the round before.

[My Name Is...]

It usually works out though doesn't it? I mean dumb judges aside.

Yeah but I am talking about people who go by and say, well he inflicted more damage.... Okay... But we dont score fights like that.... We have a point system, and each round is counts as much as the next.....

If you beat me down for the last four round and I am just clinging on... But I won the first 8... Sorry bro, I win....

[βetamax]

Thank You.....

And the Compubox stats are a little off also.... I have actually counted punches in a round and compubox has been way off...

Yep, I meant to throw in there that the stats are generally terrible to begin with. I've done the same thing for certain rounds in the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight and they were wayyy off. Not to mention they count ANYTHING that's not a jab as a power punch. In other words if the fighters are clenched and one guy taps the other on the side...power punch.

[warp1432]

That fight shows another flaw, flash knockdowns. Collazo was off balance and pretty much tripped from an average punch, and he lost the fight because of it.

Well not really....Hatton came at him and when collazo was pulling back caught him. So it was flash kind of, but it more due to the impact of the punch and the balance then tripping.

Also I disagee he lost the fight because of it. I had it 115-112, which is what two of the judges had it. It would have been an MD loss for him still.

[My Name Is...]

Well, In my opinion. If a guy **** kicks the other guy in round 8 and then round 9 is close it should go to the guy who was kicking ass the round before.

I like you because of your sig..... But that is the single most ****** thing I have heard in a while... Lets just pray that you are being sarcastic.....

Whoever wins the round wins the round.... There is supposed to be no bias..... Which giving a round to a guy who won the previous just because he kicked more as in the previous round... is being biased....