I had a debate with Gato Figueroa regarding Cotto-Judah...

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  • Mr. Ryan
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    I had a debate with Gato Figueroa regarding Cotto-Judah...

    Of course everyone knows that for the first couple rounds, Judah gave Cotto a serious run for his money. Cotto stemmed the tide with a few well-placed low blows that seemed to shake Judah's confidence and turn the fight around.

    Figueroa says that if Judah would have stayed down and refused to go on after the low blows, he would of course lost by TKO but his competitiveness would have forced a second fight and another payday.

    My take was the anti-climactic finish would have dissuaded ticket buyers from a second go-round plus would have left HBO with a sour taste in their mouths. I said that would have amounted to quitting which under very few circumstances, not including low blows, goes over well with the fans.

    He says it would be a smart business move but I likened it to Orlin Norris' fight with Tyson, where they tried to force a DQ on a foul and push for a second payday. Tell that to the guys who paid $2000 for a ringside seat, right?

    What is your take?
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    #2
    If he played the 2nd low blow then he could have won by DQ but he gutted it out like a real fighter and continued.

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      #3
      I dont know

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      • Pullcounter
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        #4
        Originally posted by Harvey Danger
        Of course everyone knows that for the first couple rounds, Judah gave Cotto a serious run for his money. Cotto stemmed the tide with a few well-placed low blows that seemed to shake Judah's confidence and turn the fight around.

        Figueroa says that if Judah would have stayed down and refused to go on after the low blows, he would of course lost by TKO but his competitiveness would have forced a second fight and another payday.

        My take was the anti-climactic finish would have dissuaded ticket buyers from a second go-round plus would have left HBO with a sour taste in their mouths. I said that would have amounted to quitting which under very few circumstances, not including low blows, goes over well with the fans.

        He says it would be a smart business move but I likened it to Orlin Norris' fight with Tyson, where they tried to force a DQ on a foul and push for a second payday. Tell that to the guys who paid $2000 for a ringside seat, right?

        What is your take?
        i dont think cotto has ever given a rematch to date

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        • Clegg
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          #5
          I agree with your take on things.

          There are multiple example of fights that have ended early and in inconclusive fashion without an immediate rematch taking place.

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          • poeticlsykuac
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            #6
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            i dont think cotto has ever given a rematch to date
            I am not a big Cotto fan but only 1 man has asked for one that I know of and that is Mosley. He definitely beats everyone convincingly enough that they don't care for a rematch in most cases. I do have Mosley winning that one though so I think it still needs to happen.

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            • Mr. Ryan
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              #7
              Originally posted by Ryn0
              If he played the 2nd low blow then he could have won by DQ but he gutted it out like a real fighter and continued.
              Unified rules dictate that you can't win by DQ if you're unable to continue afer five minutes. You have to continue or you lose by TKO.

              Andrew Golota was a different story, his low blows were a flagrant act of insubordination to the ref's warnings.

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              • Kball15
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                #8
                if he quit there is ABSOLUTELY zero chance that there would have been a rematch. that is a joke.

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                • yeykax
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                  #9
                  Yea Cotto needs to give Mosley a rematch plus it was a close fight!!!

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                  • PavlikRules
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                    Judah looked to weak for Cotto in that fight. He was trying for sure... but the truth is he never hurt Cotto in that fight. Only those living in Brooklyn and trying to hype up that borough will BS and say Judah had him out on his feet...

                    As for low blows, ANY body assassin is going to hit low on occasion. Chavez Sr. too. Many times the commentator suggested Chavez low blow were blatant. I never got that feeling from Cotto. He is a stand up dude that wants to win without cheating or plaster.

                    Look at the history: He was hurt against Torres... No low blow. Margarito with the plaster mitts, no low blows from Cotto. In fact Margarito landed 3 low blows, a headbutt and a rabbit punch when Cotto took a knee.


                    Kill yourself if you're a Judah fan. I see through past the ringwalk and the BS tough rap music playing in the background and what I DO see is Judah on his ass time and time again.

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