Calzaghe Rejects Golden Boy Offer For Hopkins Rematch

[JuDaZ13th]

Calzaghe made the right decision

[Technical_Skill]

What you're really saying is that they score it on the punches that they thought landed, and that you think they got it wrong. That's not the same as what you originally claimed.

As for shocking decisions, every single boxing expert who had Hopkins winning said it was extremely close, and no extremely close fight that doesn't go the way you think it should can be called a shocking decision. A shocking decision is when one fighter clearly won decisively, in the opinion of all boxing experts, and still lost on the official cards. That's not what happened here.

Close fight, I think Hopkins won 114-113 (Point via knockdown) how one of the judges scored that fight 116-111 for calzaghe ill never know, sums up my point really.

Because Hopkins only landed one or two clean punches per round. Calzaghe landed a lot more, and although they were less effective, they still cumulatively count for something. And I'm not going by Compubox. And instead of criticising me for "admitting" that Hopkins landed more effective punches, why not give me credit for being honest?

Because many of thse punches you are crediting him with landing, were hitting gloves, missing, i dont score those punches, but I think the judges and other people did.

You are missing the point, I didn't say The Ring is right and you're wrong. I'm saying plenty of boxing experts gave it to Calzaghe, it wasn't just the judges. That doesn't mean you're wrong, it just means plenty of experts disagree with you. So you can't say it was just some incompetent judges. And even the experts who agreed with you said it was extremely close, so you can't call it a robbery, or a shocking decision.

I never called it a robbery, it was a close fight, but again, 116-111 for calzaghe? that judge is crazy.

It wasn't Lampley, it was Harold Lederman, and again, whatever you think of him, my point was simply that plenty of well qualified people didn't share your opinion, so you can't say it was just the incompetance of the official judges.

Its both of them, Lederman does the scorecard, but that idiot lampley is the one who says shots land when they clearly hit gloves, thus why they are morons.

Ps. I think a number of actual boxers who scored the fight, scored it for hopkins, tyson was one of them, there was a link about it once, cant find it now tho. I think Dan rafeal from ESPN scored the fight the same way I did too.

[Pullcounter]

Calzaghe made the right decision

agreed... good riddance and dont come back

[Roger Mellie]

F.ucking moron, he got stunned off a right hand coming off the ropes, and he was getting hit with right hands consistently throughout the fight, where did I say calzaghe was gonna get stopped by hopkins?

Aka: you cant read posts, or spell, or score boxing

Here ya go.

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You cant score boxing too good either it would seem,but I am super distracted by your sig.you really should be banned for that ****,but I guess I am just as shallow as you because I have had a few beers and it has taken me over ten minutes to stop laughing at it!

[Technical_Skill]

You cant score boxing too good either it would seem,but I am super distracted by your sig.you really should be banned for that ****,but I guess I am just as shallow as you because I have had a few beers and it has taken me over ten minutes to stop laughing at it!

Glad you like it, looks just like that guy.

My scoring of fights is seriously accurate, 114-113 Hopkins, hopkins winning cos of the KD.

You'd be surprised how many people cant tell the difference between landed and blocked punches. Some of these judges are crazy and shouldnt be allowed anywhere near a ring.

[Dave Rado]

Close fight, I think Hopkins won 114-113 (Point via knockdown) how one of the judges scored that fight 116-111 for calzaghe ill never know, sums up my point really.

I had it 114-113 for Calzaghe, so did The Ring. I have no problem with your scoring it the other way provided you don't use the language of "I'm right, you're wrong".

Because many of thse punches you are crediting him with landing, were hitting gloves, missing, i dont score those punches, but I think the judges and other people did.

I don't score punches that miss or hit gloves either. You're really saying you think I have poor eyesight, and that you think that many boxing experts have poor eyesight. I think that's rather an arrogant position to take.

I never called it a robbery, it was a close fight, but again, 116-111 for calzaghe? that judge is crazy.

You implied it was a robbery by saying something like "how could anyone possibly score it to Calzaghe?" That implies robbery. If all you're complaining about is the 116-111 scorecard, that's fair enough, but if that judge had scored it 114-113, the end result would have been the same.

If you had said "I didn't like the 116-111 scorecard, but I admit the decision could have gone either way, although I thought Hopkins won narrowly," then I wouldn't have had any issue with that, but that wasn't what you originally said by a long way.

[Roger Mellie]

Glad you like it, looks just like that guy.

My scoring of fights is seriously accurate, 114-113 Hopkins, hopkins winning cos of the KD.

You'd be surprised how many people cant tell the difference between landed and blocked punches. Some of these judges are crazy and shouldnt be allowed anywhere near a ring.

I had it 114/113 Calzaghe,but more importantly you should say 10 hail mary's for that sig lol.

[celtic tiger]

there is no way joe would risk losing for the first time in front of his home fans in wales by fighting some one as dangerous as hopkins.... which i feel would be the case if they fought again!!!! id enjoy it tho

[Roger Mellie]

there is no way joe would risk losing for the first time in front of his home fans in wales by fighting some one as dangerous as hopkins.... which i feel would be the case if they fought again!!!! id enjoy it tho

You actually enjoyed the first fight????errrrr..ok

[Technical_Skill]

I don't score punches that miss or hit gloves either. You're really saying you think I have poor eyesight, and that you think that many boxing experts have poor eyesight.

No more tears now, Its just a bit of banter.

You implied it was a robbery by saying something like "how could anyone possibly score it to Calzaghe?" That implies robbery. If all you're complaining about is the 116-111 scorecard, that's fair enough, but if that judge had scored it 114-113, the end result would have been the same.

Ermm I believe a poster or more than one came on here and admitted that Calzaghe didnt land as a many clean and effective punches as hopkins, I said when you add to that the knockdown that calzaghe suffered, how did he deserve to win that fight?

Close fight, but I dont believe he deserved the decision I almost guarantee had the roles been reversed, you guys would have been going crazy about Americans robbing calzaghe and demanding a rematch.

If you had said "I didn't like the 116-111 scorecard, but I admit the decision could have gone either way, although I thought Hopkins won narrowly," then I wouldn't have had any issue with that, but that wasn't what you originally said by a long way.

I said If you score for clean effective punching, Hopkins won the fight.