What contributes to punching power?

[El Chicano]

Have you all noticed that many of the great punchers have been prone to get knocked down or hurt themselves. I find this a bit ironic. Do you all think this is coincidental or is there a reason for it?

[S A M U R A I]

it comes from pure concentration. call upon the earth's power.

like this guy

That's some crazy ****. Actually, it reminds me of an old guy I once saw (Chinese, I think) who concentrated his power enough to smash glass and move objects from about 10 feet away. So weird.



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[Mistadobalina]

from all the bs i've read on the net, here is what i've been able to pickup. is any of it true? the hell if i know.

broad shoulders (i personally think this is bull cus then emile griffith would've been a one-hitter quiter type of puncher)

range of motion in the shoulders (sounds right)

tendon strength (why some boxers just have that crazy snap in their punches)

explosiveness

heavy bone density / big-boned (large hands, big forearms, big wrists, etc)

strong legs/base

specific muscle fiber types (fast-twitch for those tyson/judah types...slow-twitch for those foreman/margarito types...combinations of both like cotto/robinson, etc.)


this just accounts for the innate, physical qualities of a puncher and not the gym-learned or talent aspects of knockout artists...technique, leverage, timing, accuracy, etc.

remember that joe louis was a far greater knockout artist than shavers, but shavers was still the harder hitter by far imo.

tyson is the type of puncher that combined several of the above aspects, but most of them were qualities that would fade over time. tyson in his mid 30's was far less of a dangerous puncher than foreman was in his late 40's! without his explosiveness, speed, timing, and combos, tyson found himself in a lot of trouble against the larger modern heavies of the late 90's and 00's. an arm punch from a past-prime mike could be shrugged off, while an arm punch from a waaaay past-prime foreman could still knock heads off.

[MANGLER]

Punchin power comes naturally. It ain't a skill that's learned in a gym. You're born wit it or you don't have it.

[S A M U R A I]

Punchin power comes naturally. It ain't a skill that's learned in a gym. You're born wit it or you don't have it.

Agree with that. Tyson said the same thing -- punchers are born, not made.



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[hitmanhat]

For elite fighters isn't it similar to the chin , you're born with it ?
I read in the paper once that Ricky Hatton's punches measure more than the average Carling Premier leugue footballers kick .
I also read Kostya Tszyu could bench 150kg when he only weighed 65 , so leverage must have something to do with it .
It's a myth that most people will ever be able to slam dunk a basketball because your born with it and no matter how hard most people train they will never be able too.
Do you think the average human body would be capable of reaching an elite level in boxing if it got pushed hard enough all it's life , or are you born with ?

[joe90210]

Agree with that. Tyson said the same thing -- punchers are born, not made.

Jack Dempsey would disagree with that, here's what he had to say

Punchers Are Made; Not Born

Louis retired as undefeated heavyweight champion in 1949. And I'll bet that, as he retired, Joe considered himself a natural-born puncher. I
know that's probably true because I had the same mistaken idea about myself during my career and for a time after I hung up my gloves.

If you're a punching champion it's natural for you to get the wrong appreciation of yourself. Hundreds of admirers pat you on the back and tell
you what a "natural-born" fighter you are. And when you're swept along toward seventh heaven by the roar of the crowd in your magnificent
moments of triumph, it's easy to forget the painstaking labor with which you and your instructors and trainers and sparring partners fashioned
each step in your stairway to the throne. It's easy to forget the disappointments and despair that, at times, made the uncompleted stairway seem
like "Heartbreak Hill." Ah yes, when you're on the throne, it's easy to regard yourself as one who was born to the royalty of the ring.

In your heyday as champion, you can't "see the forest for the trees." As an historian might express it, you're too close to your career to get the
proper perspective of highlights and background. It was only after I had retired and had begun trying to teach others how to fight that I
investigated the steps in my stairway-analyzed my own technique. And that was a tough job.

You see: by the time a fellow becomes a successful professional fighter, nearly all his moves are so instinctive, through long practice, that it's
difficult for him to sort out the details of each move. Accordingly, it's nearly impossible-at first-for him to explain his moves to a beginner. He can
say to the beginner, "You throw a straight right like this." Then he can shoot a straight right at a punching bag. But the beginner will have no
more conception of how to punch with the right than he had before. That's the chief reason why so few good fighters developed into good
instructors. They failed to go back and examine each little link in each boxing move. They tried to give their pupils the chains without the links.

[S A M U R A I]

Jack Dempsey would disagree with that, here's what he had to say

Interesting. I guess the pro's disagree as much as we do.



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[CiganoBoxer]

The legs, all about how you shift your weight and ofcourse you need to have a strong back

You know i once was reading a top boxing magazine and they were talking to Emanuel Stewart from the Kronk gym,they was asking him lots of different things about lots of different fighters that hed trained over the years like Lennox Lewis and Tommy Hearns etc They asked him who was the hardest puncher he had ever held the pads for ,i was shocked when he replied : Naseem Hamed ! No question!
He then went on to say that Naz had the hardest punch he had ever seen...espeicaly considering his size !
Naz had huge legs if i recall so i would say legs must help natural power to some degree !

[S A M U R A I]

You know i once was reading a top boxing magazine and they were talking to Emanuel Stewart from the Kronk gym,they was asking him lots of different things about lots of different fighters that hed trained over the years like Lennox Lewis and Tommy Hearns etc They asked him who was the hardest puncher he had ever held the pads for ,i was shocked when he replied : Naseem Hamed ! No question!
He then went on to say that Naz had the hardest punch he had ever seen...espeicaly considering his size !
Naz had huge legs if i recall so i would say legs must help natural power to some degree !

Naz punches harder than Lewis and Hearns?





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