If it weren't for the Knock Downs, Pacquiao would have lost BOTH fights to Marquez

[miron_lang]

Manny won the rematch by ONE point and practically lost every round after the opening stanza in the first fight. Manny's power saved him in both fights. In terms of skill, Juan Manuel Marquez is better than Manny and he proved it in both fights. If he would have only been able to stay on his feet, he would have won them BOTH.

I AGREE. Completely

[Komander]

Would have, could have but he did not. Keep crying.

His point is that Marquez is the more skilled of the two. You can't deny that.

[miron_lang]

Exactly, Calzaghe was knocked down then proceeded to outwork Bhop.

Why did Calzaghe get the decision and Marquez didn't?

I'll tell you why. Manny is the more popular fighter while Marquez is older and less marketable.

What the...!!!??????

[rebmogul]

Would have, could have but he did not. Keep crying.

I'm gonna bump this after the Hatton fight. I like PAC and will be FOREVER greatful for the embarassment he put on Ocross Dresser, but Hatton is going to knock him out.

I'll be you 70,000 points straight up....

[Komander]

What the...!!!??????

Calzaghe and Marquez were both knocked down in their fights.

Calzaghe got the decision against Bhop and Marquez didn't against Pac.

[loui_ludwig]

If your mother has just taken the birth control pills that your father insisted, you wouldn't be here right now.

[loui_ludwig]

His point is that Marquez is the more skilled of the two. You can't deny that.

I am not denying that. That is like saying if Manny has no speed or power or if JMM has no boxing skills.

[El Chicano]

Yea, and it sucks cause they were all pretty legit knockdowns. The one in the 2nd fight really had Marquez pretty ****ed up.

I still think Marquez won both fights even with the KD's, but it still goes to show you how amazing Marquez is.

That argument can be made. If he would have only been able to avoid the knockdowns though he would have won on the official scorecards. He boxed Manny's ears off in the first fight, but he started with a huge deficit on the scorecards. He gave the second fight away by getting dropped in the third. Marquez has been chiny lately, but he always finds a way to get back into the fight. He and Manny are like Yin and Yang.

[BoriKua305]

Thats what they want you to believe, that the K.Ds won Pac the fight but really, they didn't

people here gotta stop crying. honestly he lost the fight by one point that knockdown made the difference in the second fight in the first one that was the case jsut the judge made a mistake putting it

[El Chicano]

people here gotta stop crying. honestly he lost the fight by one point that knockdown made the difference in the second fight in the first one that was the case jsut the judge made a mistake putting it

Aint nobody crying, just stating an interesting point. Crying was you after Margarito vs Cotto.