In what WeightClass & Percentage of PBF career will "YOU" judge FLOYD MAYWEATHER???

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  • IMDAZED
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    #51
    Originally posted by Horus
    because most people judge fighters career in parts...
    Roy jones for example...
    Does the Calzaghe and Glen Johnsons loses damage Roy entire career???
    of course not... but it is apart of his career.. and most people tend to seperate things like that...
    That's a horrible example. You're not doing that here at all. You're asking us to judge him by a weight class. A better comparison would have been to say what weight class would you judge Roy Jones by, 160, 168, 175 or heavyweight. Silly, isn't it?

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    • Horus
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      #52
      Originally posted by oc9979
      if floyd would of fought the best at welterweight. i dont think anybody would disagree is the best welterweight. how come nobody argues about him being great at 130 and 135. would that be because he took out the best?
      2006: the top 2 welterweights were Zab and Baldomir floyd beat them both..!
      2007: Floyd was the top welterweight with the ring belt...everybody else was #2

      So in what year are you talking about and who..?

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        #53
        Originally posted by savorduhflavor
        Any, ya know. Not even 2, if he fought Cotto after beating Hatton, he probably would have beaten Cotto. After beating Cotto, who had just beat Mosley, the only other feasible opponent, I don't think anyone would have had an issue. I think he had to take on the best Welterweight in the world, next to himself. I mean, say what you will, but Cotto was such a worthy challenger after he beat Mosley and Floyd beat Hatton. It couldn't have been set up any better.
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        • Horus
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          #54
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          That's a horrible example. You're not doing that here at all. You're asking us to judge him by a weight class. A better comparison would have been to say what weight class would you judge Roy Jones by, 160, 158, 175 or heavyweight. Silly, isn't it?
          I actually wrote a thread about that...
          here check it out and get back to me
          http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=233982

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            #55
            Originally posted by Horus
            I actually wrote a thread about that...
            here check it out and get back to me
            http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=233982
            Nah, I'd rather stick to this one. Terrible example and has nothing to do with this thread which is a weird attempt to twist things so you can pretend Floyd didn't have a career after 135 though he was smack dab in his prime at that point.

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            • Horus
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              #56
              Originally posted by savorduhflavor
              Any, ya know. Not even 2, if he fought Cotto after beating Hatton, he probably would have beaten Cotto. After beating Cotto, who had just beat Mosley, the only other feasible opponent, I don't think anyone would have had an issue. I think he had to take on the best Welterweight in the world, next to himself. I mean, say what you will, but Cotto was such a worthy challenger after he beat Mosley and Floyd beat Hatton. It couldn't have been set up any better.

              BUT I don't think he necessarily "needed" Cotto or anything like that. I just think it would have wrapped up his 147 reign in a big way.
              Savior you know how i can get on Cotto..
              really do you want to debate the worth of cotto's greatness with me?
              cotto is not a great champion, so to say cotto would have seal Mayweather run at welterweight is very very subjective...

              if Floyd fought Cotto, It would Enhance His legecy to what...?

              "Greatest of His Generation"....?
              -Guess What?

              He already is

              Would Floyd vs. Cotto be 2 great fighters fighting that night...

              or

              1 great fighter fighting a Worthy Up and Coming Challenger???

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              • Horus
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                #57
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                Nah, I'd rather stick to this one. Terrible example and has nothing to do with this thread which is a weird attempt to twist things so you can pretend Floyd didn't have a career after 135 though he was smack dab in his prime at that point.
                ok bad example (iyo)... but i wrote a better example in that thread reply to that....

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                • Brandish
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                  #58
                  How about his whole career? Why are we trying to change the rules around to make Lil Floyd look good? his legacy is what it is, man. No need to plea for us to give him more credit than what he actually deserves.
                  and just who the f.u.c.k are you? another crybaby

                  five titles in five weight classes looks damn good from where I am sitting and undefeated. I tell you what why don't I sit you in the corner and give you a

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Horus
                    Savior you know how i can get on Cotto..
                    really do you want to debate the worth of cotto's greatness with me?
                    cotto is not a great champion, so to say cotto would have seal Mayweather run at welterweight is very very subjective...

                    if Floyd fought Cotto, It would Enhance His legecy to what...?

                    "Greatest of His Generation"....?
                    -Guess What?

                    He already is

                    Would Floyd vs. Cotto be 2 great fighters fighting that night...

                    or

                    1 great fighter fighting a Worthy Up and Coming Challenger???
                    I'm saying at that point in time, he was the most worthy challenger. Next to Floyd he was the CLEAR number 1. So why not tie up your Welterweight reign against the next best in your division when you're both coming off of HUGE wins.

                    Handing Cotto his first L coming off of that win over Mosley would have been huge for Floyd's Welterweight resume. You know that, your personal opinion on Cotto aside. The general consensus was that that fight should have been made and it would have been a HUGE win for Floyd.

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                    • Horus
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                      I'm saying at that point in time, he was the most worthy challenger. Next to Floyd he was the CLEAR number 1. So why not tie up your Welterweight reign against the next best in your division when you're both coming off of HUGE wins.

                      Handing Cotto his first L coming off of that win over Mosley would have been huge for Floyd's Welterweight resume. You know that, your personal opinion on Cotto aside. The general consensus was that that fight should have been made and it would have been a HUGE win for Floyd.
                      too me that is very subjective...but if floyd would have done it cool... but he didnt and too me it doesnt mean that much because who is cotto? at the end of the day..Cotoo is on the cusp of greatness...he is not great... but I will concede a win over cotto would have shut the critics up more..then not having the win over cotto...

                      but to me Shane Mosely is the fighter who floyd should have fought IMO..but Mosely turn it down in his prime

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