In what WeightClass & Percentage of PBF career will "YOU" judge FLOYD MAYWEATHER???

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    #151
    I don't always agree with horus, but I have to admit this was a pretty good post.

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    • KJB
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      #152
      Obviously we should judge Floyd by his career as a whole, while taking into account the variables of each situation.
      His work at 130 and 135 is where most of his merit as a fighter comes from. The things he did at 140, 147 and his single stint at 154 shouldnt hurt him seeing as he won all of those fight and has always been impressive.
      What will hurt Floyd is the fact that he never hit his ceiling, making it much harder to tell exactly how "Great" he truly is. We know how great he is to a point, but thats where it ends and we can only speculate how far it might have gone.
      No, people who trash him completely for not dominating the WW division arent be very fair. At the same time people who give him a complete pass on that for the work he did below it arent being completely fair: there was more for him to do, he walked away during his prime.
      Frankly I hope he makes a return and proves a little more one way or another over the course of a couple of more fights.

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      • Horus
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        #153
        Originally posted by KJB
        Obviously we should judge Floyd by his career as a whole, while taking into account the variables of each situation.
        His work at 130 and 135 is where most of his merit as a fighter comes from. The things he did at 140, 147 and his single stint at 154 shouldnt hurt him seeing as he won all of those fight and has always been impressive.
        What will hurt Floyd is the fact that he never hit his ceiling, making it much harder to tell exactly how "Great" he truly is. We know how great he is to a point, but thats where it ends and we can only speculate how far it might have gone.
        No, people who trash him completely for not dominating the WW division arent be very fair. At the same time people who give him a complete pass on that for the work he did below it arent being completely fair: there was more for him to do, he walked away during his prime.
        Frankly I hope he makes a return and proves a little more one way or another over the course of a couple of more fights.
        great post.... although i dont agree with everything you said...Great post

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        • RL_GMA
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          #154
          Originally posted by KJB
          Obviously we should judge Floyd by his career as a whole, while taking into account the variables of each situation.
          His work at 130 and 135 is where most of his merit as a fighter comes from. The things he did at 140, 147 and his single stint at 154 shouldnt hurt him seeing as he won all of those fight and has always been impressive.
          What will hurt Floyd is the fact that he never hit his ceiling, making it much harder to tell exactly how "Great" he truly is. We know how great he is to a point, but thats where it ends and we can only speculate how far it might have gone.
          No, people who trash him completely for not dominating the WW division arent be very fair. At the same time people who give him a complete pass on that for the work he did below it arent being completely fair: there was more for him to do, he walked away during his prime.
          Frankly I hope he makes a return and proves a little more one way or another over the course of a couple of more fights.
          That's pretty much my opinion on Floyd. I never discredit what he's done, but in my eyes he didn't reach his Pinnacle just yet regardless of how many titles he's won. The names on your resume in total are what careers are remembered by mostly.

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          • Horus
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            #155
            Before I leave i wanted to bump this thread.

            Floyd @ Jr. Middle Weight = 1 Fight (WBC Champion) P4P#1
            Floyd @ WW = 4 Fights (WBC,WBO, IBO Champion) P4P#1
            Floyd @ Jr WW = 3 fights (WBC Champion)P4P#1
            Floyd @ Lightweight = 4 Fights (WBC Champion) P4P#2
            Floyd @ Jr. Lightweight = 27 Fights (WBC Champion) TOP 5 P4P

            Ummm I wonder what Division floyd will be place in when he goes into the HOF? I am pretty sure it will not be Welterweight.

            Floyd can come back to Jr. Middleweight, Welterweight, or Junior Welterweight. It doesnt matter because at the end of the day he is going into the HOF as a Jr. Lightweight/Superfeatherweight


            be back later.

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            • Pullcounter
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              #156
              at the end of the day you have to judge him based on his work at 130 cause that's where he spent most of his career

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              • RL_GMA
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                #157
                Originally posted by Horus
                Before I leave i wanted to bump this thread.

                Floyd @ Jr. Middle Weight = 1 Fight (WBC Champion) P4P#1
                Floyd @ WW = 4 Fights (WBC,WBO, IBO Champion) P4P#1
                Floyd @ Jr WW = 3 fights (WBC Champion)P4P#1
                Floyd @ Lightweight = 4 Fights (WBC Champion) P4P#2
                Floyd @ Jr. Lightweight = 27 Fights (WBC Champion) TOP 5 P4P

                Ummm I wonder what Division floyd will be place in when he goes into the HOF? I am pretty sure it will not be Welterweight.

                Floyd can come back to Jr. Middleweight, Welterweight, or Junior Welterweight. It doesnt matter because at the end of the day he is going into the HOF as a Jr. Lightweight/Superfeatherweight


                be back later.
                The HOF isn't based on what division the fighter fought in more than them just having a respectable body of work. Henry Armstrong is a Hall of Famer who fought simultaneously at Featherweight and Welterweight. Nobody looks at him at being in any specific weight because he performed equally as good in each of them. Floyd has great accolades at 130-135, but he didn't become a name to the public until he reached the higher weight classes.

                Besides, Floyd hasn't fought at 130-135 in qite a long time. Is the HOF supposed to ignore what he's done post his days at 135? He's gone on to fight Baldomir, Zab, Gatti, De La Hoya, and Ricky Hatton. Two of those names are bigger than any name he's beaten prior (regardless if Oscar was past his prime and Hatton was a blown up WW).

                Floyd's career isn't over and when he returns you better believe it'll be at 147.

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                  #158
                  in the division his fan will claim he can and did dominate which is the WW division.

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                  • warp1432
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                    #159
                    Where's the whole career option?

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by 2501
                      in the division his fan will claim he can and did dominate which is the WW division.
                      not really... floyd only went to WW to get a fight w/ dlh

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