Sugar Ray Robinson's Defense

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  • klipsch speaker
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    Sugar Ray Robinson's Defense

    A thread that i was browsing yesterday questioned why old skool fighters get more credit than today's fighters... This prompted me to look at highlights of sugar ray robinson... Is it just me or i just thought he had little defense? He was the most excellent in offense but his defense is not as good... (judging from the highlights) You agree boys?
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    #2
    all i know is you can't be the GOAT and have losses on your record.

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    • KostyaTszyu44
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      #3
      ray was never a slickster

      you were most likely watching videos of him in his 30's as a middleweight, by then his reflexes had declined somewhat and he relied on his chin a lot more than he used to, but he was never known for whitaker like defence in the first place

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      • warp1432
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        #4
        He relied on mostly reflexes like Jones did. The majority of the fights of SRR are of him past his prime. He was hit more because of it.

        He also had an iron chin, so if he got caught it was fine.

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        • KJB
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          #5
          Originally posted by 2501
          all i know is you can't be the GOAT and have losses on your record.
          I really hope that was a joke, cause if it wasnt you dont understand boxing or fighting in the slightest.
          Anyway Robinson certainly wasnt the greatest defensive master that ever lived. He often used his offensive skills for defense, and had excellent feet to get him out of trouble. But yeah, the guy definitely got hit by jabbers.

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          • Sandro17
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            #6
            Originally posted by 2501
            all i know is you can't be the GOAT and have losses on your record.
            Oh yes you can.

            It's all about who you fight.

            If you lose to someone once and comeback to beat him 2/3 times then you can still be the GOAT because you're better than the other guy.

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            • Fulcrum29
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              #7
              Originally posted by 2501
              all i know is you can't be the GOAT and have losses on your record.
              Sugar Ray Robinson was 133-2 in his prime prior to retiring. Please name me a fighter that had a better record?

              Then, when he was past his prime and came back out of retirement for money that's when he accumulated 19 losses (though close to 200 wins) because he was old and fighting in many weight classes above where he should be.

              Once again, I ask anyone here, please name me a fighter who had a better record than 133-2 in their prime prior to their retirement?

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              • S A M U R A I
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                #8
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                • S.G.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fulcrum29
                  Sugar Ray Robinson was 133-2 in his prime prior to retiring. Please name me a fighter that had a better record?

                  Then, when he was past his prime and came back out of retirement for money that's when he accumulated 19 losses (though close to 200 wins) because he was old and fighting in many weight classes above where he should be.

                  Once again, I ask anyone here, please name me a fighter who had a better record than 133-2 in their prime prior to their retirement?
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                  • MWMerlino
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                    #10
                    I think SRR had a defense more like RJJ or Sweet Peas then say Floyd or Toney

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