p4p rankings(plz read)

[JAB5239]

p4p doesn't mean you move up or down.

It means that if weight didn't exist and you all fought the same height and weight, your skills would be superior. You could fight your WHOLE career at the EXACT same weight and still be considered a p4p fighter.

Robinson, the reason the p4p list was started, fought up in weight, to get fights, not to test his skills, though both things eventually happened. But, when he fought at 175, he wasn't really 175. His skills just happened to be ruling the night, before fatigue set in.

Nonetheless, it's about your skills, if height and mostly weight were on an even playing field.

Good post!

[a-raines21]

Thread starter is clearly a bit thick. Hatton is top 15 for sure and Calzaghe top 3, how anyone could even question Calzaghe not being top 10 is just ******.

Me thinks he is a Brit hater.

okay.... how in ****s name can you have a top 15 p4p list?????? imo p4p stretches to 5 fighters tops...... calzaghe doesnt make the cut

the way p4p is ranked officially is based on the ones who move up in weight..... just lookt at the top p4p fighters of the past 20 years........ u wont be number one if you dont prove your skill in hight weight classes.

most of u say it is based on what would happen if weight didnt exist. but the fact is that top p4p fighters beat fighters heavier than then, and show thatg weight isnt a factor, when in reality it is.

if a ww moves up and beats the middleweight champ, then doesnt thaat show surpreme skill?

its like the weight is there, but the smaller guy wins anyway.....

that is true p4p...
and calderon insists that hight and weight are out of the question in p4p rankings. this isnt true because top p4p fighters have always won even when natural size and strength was a factor.

ex: jones vs. ruiz
mayweather vs. castillo
pacquiao vs. dlh

[THe TRiNiTY]

I think if there were heavyeights good enough they would be on there. When tyson was at his peak he was on there, same for holyfield, lewis and others.

At the moment there are no heavy's that belong

I do agree with that, I just mean the average Heavyweight wouldn't make it on, for obvious reasons.

[Golden Boy 360]

i always thought it was the best fighter regardless of weight class

[sunny31]

okay.... how in ****s name can you have a top 15 p4p list?????? imo p4p stretches to 5 fighters tops...... calzaghe doesnt make the cut

the way p4p is ranked officially is based on the ones who move up in weight..... just lookt at the top p4p fighters of the past 20 years........ u wont be number one if you dont prove your skill in hight weight classes.

most of u say it is based on what would happen if weight didnt exist. but the fact is that top p4p fighters beat fighters heavier than then, and show thatg weight isnt a factor, when in reality it is.

if a ww moves up and beats the middleweight champ, then doesnt thaat show surpreme skill?

its like the weight is there, but the smaller guy wins anyway.....

that is true p4p...
and calderon insists that hight and weight are out of the question in p4p rankings. this isnt true because top p4p fighters have always won even when natural size and strength was a factor.

ex: jones vs. ruiz
mayweather vs. castillo
pacquiao vs. dlh

Most of your post is absolute garbage, first of all don't start a thread as a question, and ask for feedback and then tell everyone there wrong. That is not how p4p works, and who made you president? There is no officially with this topic it is hypothetical, so don't state your opinion as "official"

In the early 90's mike tyson was p4p #1 so that basically ****s all over your argument. Does moving through weight divisions help your case? Definitely. But there is much...much more to it then that, its not that simple. You have to look at each case and look at who that fighter has fought and beat.

For the record p4p generally is a top 10 thing, but there ARE quite a few top 15 lists and even top 20 as well as honorable mentions. Do your research

[MANGLER]

Joe C was SMW champ forever and closed his reign wit decisive wins over the other champs, both who were younger and largely picked to beat him. Then he moved up and took decisions over Bhop and RJ, which despite the circumstances (close, old), were still huge wins. But he's retired now so **** it. Dawson shouldn't be in there. Hatton? Maybe, as long as he's no higher than 8-10, I guess is reasonable.

[sunny31]

I do agree with that, I just mean the average Heavyweight wouldn't make it on, for obvious reasons.

yeah agreed

[DarchinyFAN]

thats bull****......

if its talent in yyour division, you could still have phisical advantages that wont be affective in higher weights........ that is what measures your skills

So you are saying a guy doesnt challange his skills unless he fights at multiple weight classes?

[JAB5239]

Most of your post is absolute garbage, first of all don't start a thread as a question, and ask for feedback and then tell everyone there wrong. That is not how p4p works, and who made you president? There is no officially with this topic it is hypothetical, so don't state your opinion as "official"

In the early 90's mike tyson was p4p #1 so that basically ****s all over your argument. Does moving through weight divisions help your case? Definitely. But there is much...much more to it then that, its not that simple. You have to look at each case and look at who that fighter has fought and beat.

For the record p4p generally is a top 10 thing, but there ARE quite a few top 15 lists and even top 20 as well as honorable mentions. Do your research

Good post!

[sunny31]

Good post!

Thanks man