p4p rankings(plz read)

[a-raines21]

it doesnt matter if you move up or stay put, what matters is a combiination of how you win and who you win against.

no hell no....... how is POUND FOR POUND if there is no change in weight? all of the number one p4p fighters in history move up and won belts in multiple dividion, and made it look easy..........
basede on this, where do you get this definition of p4p?

[Pullcounter]

no hell no....... how is POUND FOR POUND if there is no change in weight? all of the number one p4p fighters in history move up and won belts in multiple dividion, and made it look easy..........
basede on this, where do you get this definition of p4p?

everybody's definition of p4p is different.

[Motofan]

The mistake people make is to judge P4P based on "Well...if Hatton and Roy Jones were the same size...who would win?" Which has nothing to do with it. P4P is based on who you fight and who you beat. That's it. Not who has the most talent or no losses or who would win in a style match up. Pac is P4P #1 because of who he fought and beat. Not because he is the most skilled or because he would beat a prime Roy Jones if they were the same size. He isnt P4P just because he moved up in weight. It's because of who he beat at those weights. Just moving up in weight and winning fights doesnt mean you are better then a guy who stays in one weight class whipping on quality opposition your whole career.

[sunny31]

Although moving up through weight divisions is impressive, i don't think it necessarily means your better than a guy for example who has dominated a weight division for many years against top competition, especially as sometimes physical disadvantages can play a factor like height and reach which can limit a fighters ability to go through divisions, and isn't a testament of your skill at your ideal weight. Fact of the matter is some fighters physically and stylistically, are better suited to going through the weight divisions.

I agree with calderon's interpretation.

For example - Floyd mayweather has gone through 5 weight divisions now, I personally think physically his best weight was probably lw or maybe lww. But here is the question, was he more impressive at that weight then say marvin hagler was at mw or some of the great hw's of all time? Because I don't think he was

[Testdead]

Thread starter is clearly a bit thick. Hatton is top 15 for sure and Calzaghe top 3, how anyone could even question Calzaghe not being top 10 is just ******.

Me thinks he is a Brit hater.

[Tuggers1986]

none really.... thats what makes him #1 p4p

if this were the case, then wouldnt there be more heavyweights on the list?
p4p is based on u actually moving up and proving your skill...... not on fictional **** based on your fights at a set weight.

really think about this, that does the previous 3 top p4p fighter have in common?????

Calderon is right. You are wrong.

It's got nothing to do with moving up. P4P rankings aren't even official anyway. It is just whobased on opinion. Mine against yours.

P4P is basically, who is the best fighter if weight wasn't an issue. If every fighter weighed the same, who is the most skilled.

[Sin City]

pound 4 pound isn't about who moves up in weight.. pound 4 pound is hypothetically who would win if they were the same natural size. I don't think p4p fighters where ever meant to fight each other though. it would be rediculous to have bernard fight marquez.. or miguel cotto fight hopkins.

[Pullcounter]

pound 4 pound isn't about who moves up in weight.. pound 4 pound is hypothetically who would win if they were the same natural size. I don't think p4p fighters where ever meant to fight each other though. it would be rediculous to have bernard fight marquez.. or miguel cotto fight hopkins.

if jmm beat mosley or cotto i'd put him as p4p #1 though

[THe TRiNiTY]

none really.... thats what makes him #1 p4p




if this were the case, then wouldnt there be more heavyweights on the list?
p4p is based on u actually moving up and proving your skill...... not on fictional **** based on your fights at a set weight.

really think about this, that does the previous 3 top p4p fighter have in common?????

No, there woulnd't be any heavyweights, because heavyweights suck. Heavyweights are usually left off the list based upon the fact that any Heavyweight can KO almost any other Heavyweight.

Are you trying to tell me the p4p list was made for a different reason than the Robinson one? You serious?

[sunny31]

No, there woulnd't be any heavyweights, because heavyweights suck. Heavyweights are usually left off the list based upon the fact that any Heavyweight can KO almost any other Heavyweight.

Are you trying to tell me the p4p list was made for a different reason than the Robinson one? You serious?

I think if there were heavyeights good enough they would be on there. When tyson was at his peak he was on there, same for holyfield, lewis and others.

At the moment there are no heavy's that belong