chris john should be ranked higher than marquez p4p....

[Don Johnson]

I think it's a huge stretch to give John 5 rounds. I scored rounds 1, 4, 6, and 11 for John, but really that was it. Hell all those rounds are arguable for Marquez except round 11, which I thought John won clearly.

it's kinda hard to see where the real work is being done, it was a very close fight and could've gone either way. The quality of the video was just sooo bad, most ringside observers had john winning as well.

[Ryn0]

I see you changed your p4p list.

Is it the draw over Rocky Juarez (whom Marquez easily dominated) that impresses you so much you'd change John's ranking from #8 to #2?

Manchine you know that John deserved the W.

[JAB5239]

I see you changed your p4p list.

Is it the draw over Rocky Juarez (whom Marquez easily dominated) that impresses you so much you'd change John's ranking from #8 to #2?

Lmao!!! Talk about getting owned!

[warp1432]

it's kinda hard to see where the real work is being done, it was a very close fight and could've gone either way. The quality of the video was just sooo bad, most ringside observers had john winning as well.

The 700 MB version I have is not that bad of quality. You can tell what's going on and who is landing. The fight has a clear winner and it's Marquez.

[ßringer]

I think it's a huge stretch to give John 5 rounds. I scored rounds 1, 4, 6, and 11 for John, but really that was it. Hell all those rounds are arguable for Marquez except round 11, which I thought John won clearly.

You're preaching to the choir here, as I said I scored it 8-4 for Marquez as well. But for some odd reason, the myth of John actually beating Marquez still persists to this day. I'm not sure if it's hatred of Marquez, love for John, or what. So I'm trying to be a fencewalker on this one. At least as polite as I can be to John, who I feel isn't really worth any of the praise he's getting since battling to a draw with Juarez.

For the record, I though John beat Juarez by at least 2 points. But that's the fight game.

He probably meant threadstarter's p4p list which also has Marquez ranked above Chris John.

John might have a win over Marquez but he doesn't have his resume. You could also say that John went to a draw with Juarez while Marquez dominated him.

Ah, I see. And LOL at him changing his list all of a sudden, putting John at #2. John would end up with a record of 30-25 if he had fought Marquez's opposition.....and that's being generous.

[a-raines21]

Then what do you see Hagler as?

hagler wasnt the best p4p...... if he were to move up in weight that size and chin wouldnt matter as much

[MELLY-MEL...]

are u gonna write ***quez, and expect to be taken any other way than a total douche bag?

[billionaire]

i actually predicted marquez by ko...really the fight shouldnt have even been as close as it was...he chose to brawl with diaz in the beginning and got stunned a few times....he was doing dumb **** like backing himself into corners, thats like jermain taylor would do....he should be knocked down a few pegs not climbed up...

[billionaire]

hagler wasnt the best p4p...... if he were to move up in weight that size and chin wouldnt matter as much

lol, stop letting mayweather define what pound for pound means....super middleweight wasnt even made until hagler was going out....he was a little middleweight compared to these modern guys yet he still beat hearns who towered over him.....

[TheGreatA]

i actually predicted marquez by ko...really the fight shouldnt have even been as close as it was...he chose to brawl with diaz in the beginning and got stunned a few times....he was doing dumb **** like backing himself into corners, thats like jermain taylor would do....he should be knocked down a few pegs not climbed up...

What's this?

that was phenomonal hall of fame performance......i picked marquez by ko but honestly thought thru the first 3 that he was gonna get ko'd.......diaz might be his last fight he needs to get his body in shape finally.......