Marquez is #1 P4P -coming from a pacfan...

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  • Tha_Greatest
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    #21
    Originally posted by ELPacman
    Yup, I believe it now. Although, if Manny beats Hatton, I'll probably put Manny back up there. But right now, it was made pretty clear that Marquez moved up to 135lbs to face the very best, KOed him, and now faces a young upcoming challenger and KOed him as well. He is really damn good.
    marquez and pacquiao are tied in my opinion and im a marquez fan, i aint putting pac down just yet, hes done nothing wrong to go down in #1 status in my opinion, marquez just keeps doing things right

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    • JOM'S
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      #22
      IMHO PAC is still P4P No. 1...

      For JMM to get to No. 1 either he has to beat PAC or Manny loses versus anyone first, then JMM moves up to No. 1

      this latest victory over Diaz earned JMM a stronghold at No. 2 and a big statement going forward to PAC-JMM 3...

      head to head Manny and JuanMa are very close but P4P PAC is on a higher plateau fighting from way down the jr. flyweight division up to the welterweight limit...

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      • wmute
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        #23
        I still have pac #1. I am very impressed with Marquez and I am not that impressed with the Oscar win, but I can't take it away from Pacquiao.

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        • Kobayashi
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          #24
          How can Marquez be the #1 P4P when he lose twice to Pac and have been knock down 4 times.

          If Marquez want to be #1, he have to beat Pac. At 140, it will be a harder for him fighting Pac than at 130.

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          • S.G.
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            #25
            i agree with threadstarter

            i think his win over Diaz is more credible than a win over Hatton too, unless Pacman blasts Hatton in like 3 rounds

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            • ELPacman
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              #26
              Hey, I'm basing this a lot on what Kellerman said to be honest. It just made sense. Manny did more or less face a 135lbs champ that barely crack the top 5 list at 135lbs. Then he faced Oscar who was soooo dead before the match, it didn't mean much. Marquez faced THE champ at 135lbs, and then a young, determined, Juan Diaz, and KOed both of them. That's pretty impressive. I think the most impressive thing about Manny's feat is that he went all the way up to 147lbs and won, starting out as a flyweight. Manny facing Hatton will bring him back to the top caliber level of opponent as far as Hatton isn't out of his prime, is strong, and is stll undefeated at 140lbs. Manny beating Hatton will make up for Marquez beating Diaz. Sort of like a cat and mouse chase, until eventually they end up facing each other for the 3rd time.

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              • Chups
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                #27
                Yes, Manny's fight of the year accomplishments last year was easily erased by winning against a feather fisted former champ.

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                • ELPacman
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Chups
                  Yes, Manny's fight of the year accomplishments last year was easily erased by winning against a feather fisted former champ.
                  Bro, open your mind up abit more. Manny's win against Marquez was razor thin. David Diaz was so much worse than Juan Diaz. Oscar was already dead before the fight due to the weight. I'm not knocking on him moving around in 3 weight classes though and getting the W in all of them. That was good stuff no doubt. But when it comes to facing the best in the division, Marquez went right for Casamayor at 135lbs after what many people thought he had beaten Manny at 130lbs. Then he KOs Casamayor who was never previously KOed. Then faces who many people picked to beat him, Juan Diaz due to his youth and relentless style. You can't say Diaz is featherfisted either. He has stoppages of Freitas and Suico who were heavyhanded fighters, and he rocked Marquez. THINK alil bit.

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                  • KILLA RIGHT
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                    #29
                    Imo he beat pac twice...beat casa and juan diaz the 2 best at 135...pac lost twice imo beat a average fighter then beat a washed up oscar yup he took 2 easy fights instead of taking the tougher fights

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                    • Silencers
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                      #30
                      JMM is the most well skilled fighter in the world right now, just goes to show how good Pacquiao is as well and you can't discount his win over Marquez, controversial or not so Pacquiao is still pound for pound number 1 to me.

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